With two years of experience and a clean bill of health, Carl Lawson can emerge as one of the NFL's finest young pass-rushers

Check out the Pass-Rush Win Rate Chart in the article. Lawson was only slightly behind Bosa and Garrett.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-now-with-two-years-of-experience-and-a-clean-bill-of-health-carl-lawson-can-emerge-as-one-of-the-nfls-finest-young-pass-rushers

The Law can scrape the grass with his shoulder he has so much bend.

Rare talent, very rare.

We desperately missed him last season. Can’t wait until he gets back to 100%

(05-26-2019, 11:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: We desperately missed him last season. Can’t wait until he gets back to 100%

Someone listed our win to loss ratio with him in and the way he pressured the QB and it was a little bit absurd.

Great player.

(05-26-2019, 11:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: We desperately missed him last season. Can’t wait until he gets back to 100%

It takes about 2-years to recover from ACL surgery...  So time will tell if he takes a step and then another next year. But I think we are all rooting for Lawson and our DL to recover from last year.

I never knew about these in-depth stats (especially from college... he went in the 4th?)...

Great Post...

Lots of IF's involved here.. I'm hoping he's fully ready, but it's a game that required a lot of high impact on joints and elsewhere.

(05-26-2019, 11:32 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: With two years of experience and a clean bill of health, Carl Lawson can emerge as one of the NFL's finest young pass-rushers

Check out the Pass-Rush Win Rate Chart in the article. Lawson was only slightly behind Bosa and Garrett.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-now-with-two-years-of-experience-and-a-clean-bill-of-health-carl-lawson-can-emerge-as-one-of-the-nfls-finest-young-pass-rushers

I absolutely agree that he can which I find absurd that because of an injury he is being so disrespected by so many talking heads. The kid is extremely skilled as a specialist and was continuing to improve when he was injured. It is funny that in a sport where you see injuries on a weekly basis that so many are just completely written off after an injury that should not be remotely close to career threatening.

(05-27-2019, 09:08 AM)OSUfan Wrote: I absolutely agree that he can which I find absurd that because of an injury he is being so disrespected by so many talking heads. The kid is extremely skilled as a specialist and was continuing to improve when he was injured. It is funny that in a sport where you see injuries on a weekly basis that so many are just completely written off after an injury that should not be remotely close to career threatening.

I think Lawson is a very good pass rusher and I’m excited to have him back. Today ACL injuries aren’t as career threatening as before but some players take time to come back from them. The recovery time is close to a year with ACL injuries. Also Lawson had an injury history coming out of College where he also tore his ACL which I think factors into some people’s concerns about him long term.

Very excited to see how Lawson fares in the upcoming season. He has great potential and it is nice having a stable of horses should one or two go down with injuries.

One thing ZT has said that I really like is something to the effect of being "the freshest team out there" and the "fastest team out there" on Sundays. It sounds like he is focused on having them rested and ready for gameday...something Marvin was questioned about in the past.

(05-27-2019, 12:00 AM)PAjwPhilly Wrote:
It takes about 2-years to recover from ACL surgery...  So time will tell if he takes a step and then another next year. But I think we are all rooting for Lawson and our DL to recover from last year.

I never knew about these in-depth stats (especially from college... he went in the 4th?)...

Great Post...

No offense, but I think that is on the pessimistic side, But, it depends on the injury severity. If only ACL, it will be not as severe time table to 100%. It is when MCL and meniscus tears along with the ACL that get you to the 2 year full recovery.

Does anyone know if he has anything else repaired besides the ACL?

He also seems like a workout warrior so would not be surprised if he is back to 100% by week one (optimistic view I know). These guys can get a  lot done rehabbing 5 to 7 days a week for 9 months.

As far as career threatening, today they can reconstruct to make the ACL stronger than it was prior to surgery.

One other note: That college video where he was destroying Clemson showed him lining up on both sides. I hope the Bengals follow suit. Move him around. Spell Dunlap. Rotate with Willis and HUbbard. And keep him fresh.

what was alarming was that Lawson was on the field
on 56% of the time on passing downs.
that just shows you how out of touch and clueless Lewis
was when it came to utilizing Lawson.
instead Michael Johnson was out there who was a statue
on passing downs

(05-27-2019, 10:26 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: No offense, but I think that is on the pessimistic side, But, it depends on the injury severity. If only ACL, it will be not as severe time table to 100%. It is when MCL and meniscus tears along with the ACL that get you to the 2 year full recovery.

Does anyone know if he has anything else repaired besides the ACL?

He also seems like a workout warrior so would not be surprised if he is back to 100% by week one (optimistic view I know). These guys can get a  lot done rehabbing 5 to 7 days a week for 9 months.

As far as career threatening, today they can reconstruct to make the ACL stronger than it was prior to surgery.

You are correct that the ACL can be healed in a years time, but regaining the physical mobility and mental trust in the joint can take longer.  That is why most give the two year window - back on the field in 1 year, back to top form after another.

(05-27-2019, 10:26 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: No offense, but I think that is on the pessimistic side, But, it depends on the injury severity. If only ACL, it will be not as severe time table to 100%. It is when MCL and meniscus tears along with the ACL that get you to the 2 year full recovery.

Does anyone know if he has anything else repaired besides the ACL?

He also seems like a workout warrior so would not be surprised if he is back to 100% by week one (optimistic view I know). These guys can get a  lot done rehabbing 5 to 7 days a week for 9 months.

As far as career threatening, today they can reconstruct to make the ACL stronger than it was prior to surgery.

The 2 year number was more a figure from 10-15 years ago. I think we're seeing guys recover a lot quicker now.

1.  Both Hubbard and Lawson should see their numbers go up due to more playing time.  Michael Johnson played almost 500 snaps on defense last year.

2.  Just heard a fascinating interview about these Next Gen stats that are compiled from sensors on the players bodies during the game.  Their "win rate" is based on when the defender is closer to the QB than the blocker.  One of the interesting findings from using all these sensors is that the player who gets the sack is often not the first player to get pressure in the QB. So even though Lawson only got credit for one sack last year his constant pressure on the QB generated sacks for other players.

(05-27-2019, 10:54 AM)impactplaya Wrote: what was alarming was that Lawson was on the field
on 56% of the time on passing downs.
that just shows you how out of touch and clueless Lewis
was when it came to utilizing Lawson.
instead Michael Johnson was out there who was a statue
on passing downs

First thing I thought as I started reading the article is what could have been if he was actually on the field more ? I can't wait to see what happens with him and so many others moving forward.

So, then, the questions present themselves naturally: Why, during the 23 games in which he was active, was he only on the field for 56.7% of his team’s pass-rushing snaps? Why, after performing at such a high level in those games, was he out-snapped by the likes of Michael Johnson, who earned a pass-rushing grade of 52.9 compared to Lawson’s grade of 81.0?

(05-27-2019, 06:31 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: So, then, the questions present themselves naturally: Why, during the 23 games in which he was active, was he only on the field for 56.7% of his team’s pass-rushing snaps? Why, after performing at such a high level in those games, was he out-snapped by the likes of Michael Johnson, who earned a pass-rushing grade of 52.9 compared to Lawson’s grade of 81.0?

I mean... you know why. Marv.

(05-27-2019, 06:31 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: First thing I thought as I started reading the article is what could have been if he was actually on the field more ? I can't wait to see what happens with him and so many others moving forward.

So, then, the questions present themselves naturally: Why, during the 23 games in which he was active, was he only on the field for 56.7% of his team’s pass-rushing snaps? Why, after performing at such a high level in those games, was he out-snapped by the likes of Michael Johnson, who earned a pass-rushing grade of 52.9 compared to Lawson’s grade of 81.0?

(05-27-2019, 09:13 PM)NKURyan Wrote: I mean... you know why. Marv.

Yes sir, another big time example of not using a player to their strengths. I can understand using MJ on running downs more then Lawson but there is no excuse for not using a great pass rusher like Lawson over a poor one that has no bend in Michael Johnson.