(08-05-2019, 11:53 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The saying isn’t selling like waffles...

And McDonald's doesn't sell a billion fillet mignon per day.  Sales numbers are hardly the end-all judge of quality!

(08-06-2019, 07:35 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Look at it this way. If Merv was here, bad play by the offense would go undetected since the D could not put heart into playing the O. This is actually good. Gives the staff visual evidence of where that stench is coming from and ability to fix it.

The offense line has been a known weakness.  Bengals attempted to address this with 1st round draft.  I still think they wanted Risner in round 2 but got snuffed.  The Bengals will need to address the O-Line in next year's draft probably at RT and guard.  Hopefully Price shows something this year.  

Like what I am hearing about the Defense. Hopefully the Offense steps it up today.

This is sounding like a terror of a D-line this year, Lawson, Hubbard and Billings are looking great.

(08-06-2019, 07:35 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Look at it this way. If Merv was here, bad play by the offense would go undetected since the D could not put heart into playing the O.

(08-06-2019, 12:28 AM)BengalsJA Wrote: Went to training camp on Monday. Here are some of my observations
-Josh Malone looked good. Had a nice TD catch from Andy.
-Damien Willis needs to be on the team. Been to multiple practices & this guy has been great.
-Offense wasn’t has bad as some have talked about. They moved the ball. Williams lost the ball on a handoff & Mike Jordan had a bad snap. Only a couple false starts.
-Carl Lawson is dominating!! Some of it could be our Oline, but he looks good.
-Defense played pretty well as a whole also.

Welcome to the board. Please keep the camp updates coming. Do you know who had the false starts? Sounds like you visit camp a lot so interesting if you see improvement on offense or defense or specific players?

To be honest I would be fine with more dumb penalties and snapping miscues as long as they stay healthy.

(08-05-2019, 11:53 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The saying isn’t selling like waffles...

It’s not selling like pancakes either. [emoji6]

And no mention of the crepe


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(08-06-2019, 12:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote:

(08-06-2019, 12:33 PM)HarleyDog Wrote:

Why couldn't the defense "put heart into" playing the offense when Marvin was here ?

Like reading that Lawson is up to 280, no more tweeter status and Hubbard is up to 270. Sounds like both put some good time in the weight room this off season.

(08-06-2019, 01:02 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Like reading that Lawson is up to 280, no more tweeter status and Hubbard is up to 270. Sounds like both put some good time in the weight room this off season.

I like a rotation possibility of Dunlap (getting older so needs more rest), Hubbard and Lawson + a 4th guy (maybe Willis) to step up at camp.

Lawson weight to 280 lbs is huge if he does not lose speed. In camp early, it appears he is not losing speed. Now, his challenge may be keeping the weight on burning a ton of calories daily.

(08-06-2019, 01:02 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Like reading that Lawson is up to 280, no more tweeter status and Hubbard is up to 270. Sounds like both put some good time in the weight room this off season.

Lawson fell in the draft because he was injury prone in college, then he gets hurt year 2. I wonder how that extra weight will do on his frame?

Andrew Brown last years 5th round pick that was injured most of the year is getting reps on both the outside and inside so his versatility land him in the 53.

(08-06-2019, 01:11 PM)Synric Wrote: Andrew Brown last years 5th round pick that was injured most of the year is getting reps on both the outside and inside so his versatility land him in the 53.

I forgot he existed.

I'd think that Lawson and Hubbard beefing up could spell the end for Willis if he doesn't step up.

(08-06-2019, 01:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I forgot he existed.

We all try and forget the people with the last name Brown

(08-06-2019, 01:11 PM)Synric Wrote: Andrew Brown last years 5th round pick that was injured most of the year is getting reps on both the outside and inside so his versatility land him in the 53.

Guy has a ton of talent and upside with the right coaching and motivation.

(08-06-2019, 01:09 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Lawson fell in the draft because he was injury prone in college, then he gets hurt year 2. I wonder how that extra weight will do on his frame?

If he’s strengthening and adding muscle to his lower body, mostly, that should help prevent knee and hip injuries.

(08-06-2019, 01:51 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: If he’s strengthening and adding muscle
To his lower body, mostly, that should help prevent knee and hip injuries.

You don't know that. Sometimes guys get too muscular for their joints and ligaments and get injured more.

It remains to be seen.

(08-06-2019, 01:08 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I like a rotation possibility of Dunlap (getting older so new more rest), Hubbard and Lawson + a 4th guy (maybe Willis) to step up at camp.

Just having a rotation of quality guys will do wonders for the defense. Back when our defense was arguably elite, the main reason for the high quality was the rotation of quality guys on the DL, IMO.

If we can get that rotation again, our defense can be great again.