The Nfl is a copy cat league. Most teams copy what makes other teams successful. Mike Brown ought to learn from his mistakes but he also ought to notice no other teams are copying his philosophy.

(11-29-2019, 11:50 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: ...the Pittsburgh Steelers, after a horrific 1-4 start to the season, are now 6-5 and in position for a wild card playoff spot after

1. Losing Ben Roethlisberger.
2. Losing Le’Veon Bell to the Jets.
3. Losing Antonio Brown to first the Oakland Raiders and then to insanity.
4. Maurkice Pouncey was suspended.
5. Starting third- and fourth-string quarterbacks.
6. Losing James Conner.

Could it possibly be their defense and their offensive line are so good it doesn’t matter who the skill players are? YES

Why haven’t the Bengals learned anything from this after going 0-10 against the Steelers since 2015? BECAUSE THEY'RE STUPID

Answers in bold. 

(11-29-2019, 12:10 PM)Synric Wrote: If you don't think the subpar QB play isnt holding the Steelers back you are blind.

It's a point i made in another thread. The Steelers have good D and Oline but are around .500 because of QB play. 

The Ravens have good D and Oline but are 9-2 because of QB play. 

(11-29-2019, 01:52 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Minkah Fitzpatrick came off the board early in the 2018 Draft and he didn’t fit in Miami’s defense at all.  However, in Pittsburgh, the Steelers have finally found a true successor to Troy Polamalu — but Minkah is better.

He's not better than a HoFer. 

Mike Brown

(11-29-2019, 11:50 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: ...the Pittsburgh Steelers, after a horrific 1-4 start to the season, are now 6-5 and in position for a wild card playoff spot after

1. Losing Ben Roethlisberger.
2. Losing Le’Veon Bell to the Jets.
3. Losing Antonio Brown to first the Oakland Raiders and then to insanity.
4. Maurkice Pouncey was suspended.
5. Starting third- and fourth-string quarterbacks.
6. Losing James Conner.

Could it possibly be their defense and their offensive line are so good it doesn’t matter who the skill players are?

Why haven’t the Bengals learned anything from this after going 0-10 against the Steelers since 2015?

Let's see how they finish first. About the same time last year the Bengals were 5-3 coming off the bye and in position for the Wild Card with a favorable run-in.

Feels like a life time ago.

You know who invented that depressing trombone sound used on old game shows when contestants lost? Mike Brown..  He probably has one lone Youtube video on a continuous loop in his home and office..
https://youtu.be/MDE-_UyRBbs

(11-29-2019, 11:50 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: ...the Pittsburgh Steelers, after a horrific 1-4 start to the season, are now 6-5 and in position for a wild card playoff spot after

1. Losing Ben Roethlisberger.
2. Losing Le’Veon Bell to the Jets.
3. Losing Antonio Brown to first the Oakland Raiders and then to insanity.
4. Maurkice Pouncey was suspended.
5. Starting third- and fourth-string quarterbacks.
6. Losing James Conner.

Could it possibly be their defense and their offensive line are so good it doesn’t matter who the skill players are?

Why haven’t the Bengals learned anything from this after going 0-10 against the Steelers since 2015?

The quality of coaches and players is WAY MORE INFERIOR, add to that LOW MORALE and you have a LOSING TEAM.

(11-29-2019, 12:13 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Better owner, better coaches, better organizational method/morale, make moves while we make excuses, benched a lousy QB while we kept our lousy QB on the field...etc

exactly....they are a LEGIT operation and we are a joke and an embarrassment to NFL.

(11-29-2019, 01:13 PM)HuDey Wrote: It’s the culture. Losing is no biggie here. “The worm will turn”, “We did some good things”, “We’ll go to war with what we’ve got”, and other such loserisms.

Loserisms   i'm going to trademark this word. Done.

(11-29-2019, 02:42 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: Could be that both teams see their needs and fill them with "quality"free agents or trades while the Bengals.....

Could be that both teams see their needs and fill them with "quality"free agents or trades while the Bengals are busy vacationing in Switzerland.

(11-29-2019, 04:28 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Mike Brown

You just wait till ol mikey boy turns everything around and earns his place in the pro football hall of pshame..then we'll see who has the last laugh.. 

(11-30-2019, 01:37 PM)kalibengal Wrote: exactly....they are a LEGIT operation and we are a joke and an embarrassment to NFL.

Indeed.

Look no farther than practice facilities. The Steelers have an entire facility. 4 outdoor fields and a couple big indoor portions.

The Bengals practice on fields under a bridge.

The Steelers have many more player personnel staff than us.

One team is a mom and pop shop essentially. The other is Amazon.

Legit, I've detoxed from the Bengals for the past few days...and I'm honestly coming to the conclusion that following this team and spending this much time on the board is pointless. We can debate moves they SHOULD make all we want...but they likely won't change.

(11-30-2019, 06:36 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Indeed.

Look no farther than practice facilities. The Steelers have an entire facility. 4 outdoor fields and a couple big indoor portions.

The Bengals practice on fields under a bridge.

The Steelers have many more player personnel staff than us.

One team is a mom and pop shop essentially. The other is Amazon.

Legit, I've detoxed from the Bengals for the past few days...and I'm honestly coming to the conclusion that following this team and spending this much time on the board is pointless. We can debate moves they SHOULD make all we want...but they likely won't change.

Mike Brown isn't you can take that to the bank. 

(11-30-2019, 06:40 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Mike Brown isn't you can take that to the bank. 

Indeed. Which is why it makes little sense to follow this team.

We're legit the people from the 1990's that owned Enron stock and kept looking at the newspaper every week hoping the price would go up.

Basically all but 3-4 teams have won 5 playoff games since we last won 1. So those fanbases experienced some playoff wins. We're legit hoping for 1-2 wins of regular season games.

(11-30-2019, 06:36 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:  We can debate moves they SHOULD make all we want...but they likely won't change.

(11-30-2019, 06:51 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We're legit the people from the 1990's that owned Enron stock and kept looking at the newspaper every week hoping the price would go up.

It is sad that some people love playing the victim so much that they ignore reality so they can continue to live in the 90's

Bengals 1991-2002...….. Zero winning seasons. Dead last in wining percentage among all teams that existed for that entire era.
Bengals 2003-present.... Top half of league in winning percentage.  Top 10 in playoff seasons.

The Bengals still have not won a Super Bowl since the start of the nineties but neither has over half of the teams in the league.  We have not won the ultimate prize, but anyone who claims that NOTHING HAS CHANGED is just going through mental gymnastics in order to glorify his victim status.

Once upon a time everything clicked on our team and Andy Dalton was the one holding us back. Now nothing clicks and Andy Dalton is the one holding us up for air.

Superbowl or not, we haven't won a single playoff game in many of our fans lifetime. To them, nothing has changed. It's like golf, you don't win 1st place, you're a perennial phil mickelson. Or worse, simply a no namer. Nobody remembers 3rd place, and most don't even remember 2nd.

(12-02-2019, 04:27 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Once upon a time everything clicked on our team and Andy Dalton was the one holding us back. Now nothing clicks and Andy Dalton is the one holding us up for air.

Superbowl or not, we haven't won a single playoff game in many of our fans lifetime. To them, nothing has changed. It's like golf, you don't win 1st place, you're a perennial phil mickelson. Or worse, simply a no namer. Nobody remembers 3rd place, and most don't even remember 2nd.

(12-02-2019, 03:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is sad that some people love playing the victim so much that they ignore reality so they can continue to live in the 90's

Bengals 1991-2002...….. Zero winning seasons. Dead last in wining percentage among all teams that existed for that entire era.
Bengals 2003-present.... Top half of league in winning percentage.  Top 10 in playoff seasons.

The Bengals still have not won a Super Bowl since the start of the nineties but neither has over half of the teams in the league.  We have not won the ultimate prize, but anyone who claims that NOTHING HAS CHANGED is just going through mental gymnastics in order to glorify his victim status.

You should be like...some sort of psychologist, or something. 

(11-30-2019, 06:40 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Mike Brown isn't you can take that to the bank. 

Mike is the most stubborn human on the planet. Next to my Wife.