(11-20-2019, 01:44 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: If the Bengals go Burrow then they could focus on offense this year and defense next year. They could go
Burrow
Austin Jackson (If he is there and declares as a JR.)
Kindley or another guard.
They could get a talented WR to help out Burrow and maybe a starter in LB. Still a lot of holes but it is a start. Burrow is being compared to Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Neither had rocket arms but make good decisions, are gritty players and cerebral.
Could you imagine the backlash from fans if the Bengals neglected defense this year in the draft given how abysmal they've been the past two seasons?
I think the only way you could sell that approach to the fans is if the Bengals were active in FA for defense.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: 3-5 so far. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
(11-21-2019, 04:26 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Could you imagine the backlash from fans if the Bengals neglected defense this year in the draft given how abysmal they've been the past two seasons?
I think the only way you could sell that approach to the fans is if the Bengals were active in FA for defense.
This has never happened, at least with quality players. Maybe they could get a starter at backer and get Littleton.
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(11-21-2019, 04:05 PM)Synric Wrote: Issue with Gordon is Mike Leach Air Raid Offense. Air raid QBs always put up huge numbers but it rarely translates to the NFL.
True, but i like the way he scans the field, moves in the pocket, has esacpability and different throwing angles.
He definitely looks unorthodox on a lot of throws but he's not dropping back in a clean pocket and throwing to a bunch of 1st option open receivers.
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(11-20-2019, 07:22 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I watched him play against Oregon and was very impressed. Moves and throws like Aaron Rodgers. Oh wouldn't that be nice...
Oregon's Shane Lemieux looks like a stud. Their kicker sucks. Herbert has a rocket arm.
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Number of screen completions for other top QBs (% of completions)
Joe Burrow 31 (10%) Tua Tagovailoa 45 (25%) Jacob Eason 47 (20%) Jake Fromm 34 (18%) Jordan Love 69 (26%) Jalen Hurts 36 (18%) Jamie Newman 31 (15%) Anthony Gordon 93 (20%)
(12-05-2019, 01:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: Thought his was interesting
Number of screen completions for other top QBs (% of completions)
Joe Burrow 31 (10%) Tua Tagovailoa 45 (25%) Jacob Eason 47 (20%) Jake Fromm 34 (18%) Jordan Love 69 (26%) Jalen Hurts 36 (18%) Jamie Newman 31 (15%) Anthony Gordon 93 (20%)
Is that completions per attempted screens or completions per total attempts of all passes? In other words, Burrow only completed 10% of 31 attempted screen plays?
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(12-05-2019, 02:17 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Is that completions per attempted screens or completions per total attempts of all passes? In other words, Burrow only completed 10% of 31 attempted screen plays?
31 of Burrow's 314 completions were on screens. 10%.
(12-05-2019, 02:19 PM)Big Boss Wrote: 31 of Burrow's 314 completions were on screens. 10%.
What we need is a graphic on down field throws accuracy I believe Burrow's is quite high something like 71%. It is crazy how good he is with all of his throws.
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(12-05-2019, 01:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: Thought his was interesting
Number of screen completions for other top QBs (% of completions)
Joe Burrow 31 (10%) Tua Tagovailoa 45 (25%) Jacob Eason 47 (20%) Jake Fromm 34 (18%) Jordan Love 69 (26%) Jalen Hurts 36 (18%) Jamie Newman 31 (15%) Anthony Gordon 93 (20%)
(12-05-2019, 02:25 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: So Herbert may have a cannon arm but his accuracy is inflated by high number of screen passes. Sounds like a Bengal pick to me.
Yes, that is the takeaway. His accuracy drops to 59.6% on all passes that aren't screens which is like 15 in the power 5 so good, but not as impressive as his 67.5% completion percentage.
Looks like if Jordan Love doesn't get a favorable draft grade he is considering a grad transfer.
If he doesn't enter the NFL Draft, Utah State QB Jordan Love is contemplating a grad transfer, per source. Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Houston all possible destinations. No decision made. NFL Draft grade will weigh heavily.
(12-10-2019, 12:30 AM)Synric Wrote: Looks like if Jordan Love doesn't get a favorable draft grade he is considering a grad transfer.
If he doesn't enter the NFL Draft, Utah State QB Jordan Love is contemplating a grad transfer, per source. Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Houston all possible destinations. No decision made. NFL Draft grade will weigh heavily.
Jordan Love has officially declared for the 2020 draft. He likely got a first round grade if that's true I wonder which team first round would take him?
Dolphins
Colts
Buccaneers
Chargers
Cowboys as a surprise team?
(12-11-2019, 09:34 AM)Synric Wrote: Jordan Love has officially declared for the 2020 draft. He likely got a first round grade if that's true I wonder which team first round would take him?
Dolphins
Colts
Buccaneers
Chargers
Cowboys as a surprise team?
I would expect/hope it's a team with an aging starter who may have a year or two to groom Love.
Chargers, Steelers, or Saints maybe?
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: 3-5 so far. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
(12-11-2019, 09:34 AM)Synric Wrote: Jordan Love has officially declared for the 2020 draft. He likely got a first round grade if that's true I wonder which team first round would take him?
Dolphins
Colts
Buccaneers
Chargers
Cowboys as a surprise team?
Chargers would be a great fit for this type of QB. I know he is raw but has potential. Just too inaccurate for the Bengals team.
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