(12-14-2019, 06:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Hmm, I can lobby hard that Pratt is a good pick.  Sure, he may have gotten thrown in as a starter sooner than I would have liked to have seen, but he's showing good development and plenty of potential to get better.  I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Jonah is going to be a worthy LT, but I'm also going to forecast that Wren will have a significant impact next season, as well as at least one of the 6th round RBs, as well as the youthful Mike Jordan.

Like Fred said, you can't judge a draft class after just the first season.

Hopefully, it's not a serious hip injury with Wren? Hip injuries can be a big problem for a large man. That's a lot of weight and gravity working against him. He has tools, but disappointed this season. He was a stud at ASU, not so much at NFL. He could still shine though. He's young.

I think Pratt can produce, just needs a veteran to learn from, and more talent around him at his position.
Jordan should only improve! One of the young RBs should stick. Sucks about Anderersons injuries.

Not a wasted draft by any means, but certainly had a few head scratchers??

(12-14-2019, 06:01 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Find me one single credible source that had him with a 2nd round grade. I’ll wait...

NFL teams are very secretive about their draft boards.

Obviously your sources have no credibility because they had you wanting us to take a 5th round talent (Mack Wilson) at #42.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Billy-Price-and-Jonah-Williams?pid=709626&highlight=mack#pid709626

(04-26-2019, 12:06 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If Mack Wilson is there when we pick just grab him.

(12-14-2019, 05:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know.  It is a complete waste of time.

But if you want to insist I am wrong I am willing to make a sig bet about how many NFL stars I can list who did nothing as a rookie.

We'll see who knows the most about the NFL.

(12-14-2019, 06:03 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Sums up perfectly 95% of the arguments you engage in here.

So you taking the sig bet or not?

(12-14-2019, 06:48 PM)fredtoast Wrote: NFL teams are very secrative about their draft boards.

Obviuousyly your sources have no credibility because they had you wanting us to take a 5th round talent (Mack Wilson) at #42.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Billy-Price-and-Jonah-Williams?pid=709626&highlight=mack#pid709626

Draft is so hard to predict.

Even with 2 linebackers in the top 10 last year the best linebacker of the class has been Bobby Okereke Colts drafted in round 3.

(12-14-2019, 06:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I haven’t been impressed with Pratt, but even if he works out that’s maybe 2 good picks. Very underwhelming 1st draft for Taylor no matter how you slice it. You take 2 injured RB’s and then overpay Gio? Sample was drafted at least one round too high. Jordan looks like another OSU OL bust. And Finley doesn’t even belong in the league as a backup. Davis is already off the team and currently unemployed. But yeah, I’m sure this will all look better in a few years...

Well man, we'll just have to agree to have different opinions on this matter.  I see some guys that can be solid NFL starters in that draft, with at least two with the potential to be good to very good starters.  The thing is, you're not supposed to be counting on a barely 20 year old Guard prospect, drafted in the 4th round, to be starter material as a rookie.  The same goes with Wren, a mid round pick like him is to develop for a couple years.  The 6th round RBs were both crap shoots, I'm betting that at least one of them pans out.  

Obviously, it was much too early to throw Finley out in live NFL action, but as a 4th round selection, he still got some development.  He showed promise in preseason, he's likely going to be a career backup.  But, with Pratt, you might want to take a closer look.  The guy is making some plays, showing some of that speed, and is learning on his feet.  Is he a superstar yet?  Hell no.  Do I think he's a keeper, worth watching him develop?  Hell yes.

(12-14-2019, 06:46 PM)Synric Wrote: You cannot judge a draft class after one season.

The board would be really boring if all we talked about was the past and present...

It’s possible to make an early judgement on these things. If we’re proved wrong great.

(12-14-2019, 06:48 PM)fredtoast Wrote: NFL teams are very secretive about their draft boards.

Obviously your sources have no credibility because they had you wanting us to take a 5th round talent (Mack Wilson) at #42.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Billy-Price-and-Jonah-Williams?pid=709626&highlight=mack#pid709626

I guarantee Mack Wilson would have helped us more than Drew freaking Samole lol

(12-14-2019, 06:46 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Hopefully, it's not a serious hip injury with Wren? Hip injuries can be a big problem for a large man. That's a lot of weight and gravity working against him. He has tools, but disappointed this season. He was a stud at ASU, not so much at NFL. He could still shine though. He's young.

I think Pratt can produce, just needs a veteran to learn from, and more talent around him at his position.
Jordan should only improve! One of the young RBs should stick. Sucks about Anderersons injuries.

Not a wasted draft by any means, but certainly had a few head scratchers??

With the team being so secretive about injury information divulging, it's tough to know exactly what the problem is with Wren's hip.  We don't know if it's just a muscle issue, or if it's the actual joint itself.

I think that Pratt is going to be alright.  In what limited viewing opportunities I've had this season, I've noticed him flashing that speed, and making plays that nobody seems to want to talk about.  He's legit, just not a 1st round "instant game changer" type of player.  As soon as they get another talented LB to put next to him, he's going to look 100% better.

(12-14-2019, 07:10 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I guarantee Mack Wilson would have helped us more than Drew freaking Samole lol

Honestly I'm looking forward to Drew Sample year 2. Offenses are going more to 11 personnel so a guy like Sample can be a huge part of the offense.

(12-14-2019, 07:14 PM)Synric Wrote: Honestly I'm looking forward to Drew Sample year 2. Offenses are going more to 11 personnel so a guy like Sample can be a huge part of the offense.

Let’s hope. Felt like he never played this year.

I just want a draft where the Bengals’ first round pick isn’t “dinged up.”

It takes 3 years to evaluate a draft. There are plenty of past drafts that can be evaluated. 2013 is the last draft where we landed a Pro Bowl player in Eifert.

Go ahead and criticize how Pro Bowls mean nothing...but generally the better players make Pro Bowls.

(12-14-2019, 08:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It takes 3 years to evaluate a draft. There are plenty of past drafts that can be evaluated. 2013 is the last draft where we landed a Pro Bowl player in Eifert.

Go ahead and criticize how Pro Bowls mean nothing...but generally the better players make Pro Bowls.

Well they obviously don’t mean “nothing” you’re not a scrub if you go to a PB, but really good players get snubbed all the time. Case and point...Mixon and Boyd.

(12-14-2019, 06:46 PM)Synric Wrote: You cannot judge a draft class after one season.

That’s because Bengals’ draftees are always “dinged up” and don’t play their first season.

(12-14-2019, 09:40 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: That’s because Bengals’ draftees are always “dinged up” and don’t play their first season.

Wrong.  It works that way for every team, not just the Bengals.

Also you need to educate yourself more on Bengal draft picks.  Google these guys

Jesse bates
Sam Hubbard
Carl Lawson
Joe Mixon
Tyler Boyd
Jeremy Hill
Russell Bodine
Ttyler Eifert
Giovanni Bernard
Kevin Zeitler
Andy Dalton
A J Green
Jermain Gresham
Carlos Dunlap
Jordan Shipley
Rey Maualuga

To do a true evaluation, it takes time, true, but to say it is off to a horrible start is pretty accurate. Drafting a day one starter who has a great rookie year, then long consistent career is ideal. Sure, there are some that are under used, injured or don't impress their rookie year then get to be superstars, but I'd say strike one happens a lot in Cincy.

(12-13-2019, 06:37 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: So suggs might be in the mix? lol I think we get first dips

Ive been reading a lot on how he's desperately trying to get resigned by Baltimore.

Makes sense, good shot at another ring, and retire with the team he spent 90% of his career.