(06-07-2020, 09:53 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Hitler wasn't a socialist. The Nazi's called themselves the worker's party to attract the people to their cause of nationalism and racial/religious hierarchies. Just like you said Antifa call themselves progressives but are actually regressives, Hitler was an authoritarian militant who claimed to be a populist socialist in order to gain power. It's the same game.

So now Hitler wasn't a Socialist, he was a popular Socialist. Okay....

Crazy how you HAVE to disagree with me. I am saying the same thing.

It is all good CJD, I am good with you man. I am done.

(06-07-2020, 09:53 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hey CJD, love yah man. But George Soros is a real man who is a fascist and pays these people.

This is not conspiracy, it is fact.

Violence on either side is wrong but Antifa attacks black people and liberals the same as white people.

These people hate America and want chaos. They are cowards and I see them in different cities doing the same thing.

They have pipes, knives and are being trained. It is organized.

Peaceful protests should be lauded but these are anything but peaceful. Sorry.

George Soros. Good lord. Please post evidence of that “fact”

Talking about Hitler usually sends things over the edge.

(06-07-2020, 09:53 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hey CJD, love yah man. But George Soros is a real man who is a fascist and pays these people.

This is not conspiracy, it is fact.

Violence on either side is wrong but Antifa attacks black people and liberals the same as white people.

These people hate America and want chaos. They are cowards and I see them in different cities doing the same thing.

They have pipes, knives and are being trained. It is organized.

Peaceful protests should be lauded but these are anything but peaceful. Sorry.

I hope that you'll acknowledge how peaceful these protests are as they progress. This past weekend was a revelation compared to the first few nights and I expect it to continue that way.

As far as George Soros, that's quite the rabbit hole. I've seen these comments before and I'm not even sure how to respond to them because I can't find any evidence even indicating a hint of it unless I go to like the Daily Stormer or something (which is a Nazi publication. Don't google it, it may put you on a watch list haha). I'm not sure where you heard this, so I can't really comment on it.

(06-07-2020, 09:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: So now Hitler wasn't a Socialist, he was a popular Socialist. Okay....

Crazy how you HAVE to disagree with me. I am saying the same thing.

It is all good CJD, I am good with you man. I am done.

It's cool, dude. 

There is a lot of misinformation out there and fighting through it takes a lot of work.

If you ever want to talk about it, just let me know.

(06-07-2020, 09:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Talking about Hitler usually sends things over the edge.

I’ve heard that Hitler name somewhere before. He wasn’t as ruthless as our ally Stalin though.

(06-07-2020, 10:23 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I’ve heard that Hitler name somewhere before. He wasn’t as ruthless as our ally Stalin though.

This is entertaining very sensitive territory...

(06-07-2020, 09:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: So all those people I watched getting attacked in Portland is all manufactured...

I guess when I was actually in Portland watching dudes get tazed on the street was also manufactured...

It is all pretend, wow.  

Go stick your head in the sand. I will fight for my country, the monsters are not vamps and werewolves they are Socialists.

Same as Hitler who they label Trump as even though he is the exact opposite. And I disliked Trump before he was elected.

Let me ask you something.  Forget politics.  Just think about what you've learned about other human beings over your lifetime.  

Think about times you've seen crowds get out of control and the reasons that bring those events to a head.  Then, think about what people do in those situations.  I'm talking riots after sporting events, at music festivals, bar fights, whatever.  

Do you really think people that go into situations like that need political causes to take advantage of an opportunity to steal and tear shit up?  

I was at Bengals/Steelers Wildcard game in 15.  Plenty of fine, upstanding Cincinnatians just up and deciding to throw random objects over some bad calls.  People freaked out on local talk radio the next day.  No political cause needed.  

I worked bar security for about 2 years.  I broke up fights and threw people out of clubs somewhat regularly.  Funny thing: conservatively, 40 percent or so of the people I escorted out had absolutely nothing to do with the initial incident.  They just wanted a chance to hit somebody and get away with it. I got knocked the F out by a dude who swung at me from behind after I threw another dude out. The guy that hit me did not know me and at no point that night even entered the establishment that I worked at. He just took a shot because he could and it was probably his idea of fun, lol.

People exist that just want to steal and tear shit up.  I'd say there's no shortage of them.  It's all about opportunity, and when there are riots and chaos raging in almost every major city, well, that's about as ideal an opportunity to do that as you're ever going to get.  

I live in Lexington.  UK is traditionally not and SEC power, lol.  A byproduct of this is the inevitable scenario of people setting random things on fire, usually old furniture, when the Wildcats win against a national power.  One year, some students were arrested for attempting to burn down a vacant old house.  Has nothing to do with the game or anything else remotely meaningful.  It's just a chance to do something you'd never get away with otherwise.

More and more, I think we'll see that there's no conspiracy right or left behind "riot tourists" who have little to do with protests trying to take advantage of the disorder to do egregious things.  It's human nature, whether people admit it or not.

(06-07-2020, 10:47 PM)samhain Wrote: Let me ask you something.  Forget politics.  Just think about what you've learned about other human beings over your lifetime.  

Think about times you've seen crowds get out of control and the reasons that bring those events to a head.  Then, think about what people do in those situations.  I'm talking riots after sporting events, at music festivals, bar fights, whatever.  

Do you really think people that go into situations like that need political causes to take advantage of an opportunity to steal and tear shit up?  

I was at Bengals/Steelers Wildcard game in 15.  Plenty of fine, upstanding Cincinnatians just up and deciding to throw random objects over some bad calls.  People freaked out on local talk radio the next day.  No political cause needed.  

I worked bar security for about 2 years.  I broke up fights and threw people out of clubs somewhat regularly.  Funny thing: conservatively, 40 percent or so of the people I escorted out had absolutely nothing to do with the initial incident.  They just wanted a chance to hit somebody and get away with it.

People exist that just want to steal and tear shit up.  I'd say there's no shortage of them.  It's all about opportunity, and when there are riots and chaos raging in almost every major city, well, that's about as ideal an opportunity to do that as you're ever going to get.  

I live in Lexington.  UK is traditionally not and SEC power, lol.  A byproduct of this is the inevitable scenario of people setting random things on fire, usually old furniture, when the Wildcats win against a national power.  One year, some students were arrested for attempting to burn down a vacant old house.  Has nothing to do with the game or anything else remotely meaningful.  It's just a chance to do something you'd never get away with otherwise.

More and more, I think we'll see that there's no conspiracy right or left behind "riot tourists" who have little to do with protests trying to take advantage of the disorder to do egregious things.  It's human nature, whether people admit it or not.

As soon as he brought up George Soros, you can kinda write off the opinion right there. Nothing “moderate” or even reasonable about it

(06-07-2020, 10:47 PM)samhain Wrote: Let me ask you something.  Forget politics.  Just think about what you've learned about other human beings over your lifetime.  

Think about times you've seen crowds get out of control and the reasons that bring those events to a head.  Then, think about what people do in those situations.  I'm talking riots after sporting events, at music festivals, bar fights, whatever.  

Do you really think people that go into situations like that need political causes to take advantage of an opportunity to steal and tear shit up?  

I was at Bengals/Steelers Wildcard game in 15.  Plenty of fine, upstanding Cincinnatians just up and deciding to throw random objects over some bad calls.  People freaked out on local talk radio the next day.  No political cause needed.  

I worked bar security for about 2 years.  I broke up fights and threw people out of clubs somewhat regularly.  Funny thing: conservatively, 40 percent or so of the people I escorted out had absolutely nothing to do with the initial incident.  They just wanted a chance to hit somebody and get away with it.  I got knocked the F out by a dude who swung at me from behind after I threw another dude out.  The guy that hit me did not know me and at no point that night even entered the establishment that I worked at.  He just took a shot because he could and it was probably his idea of fun, lol.

People exist that just want to steal and tear shit up.  I'd say there's no shortage of them.  It's all about opportunity, and when there are riots and chaos raging in almost every major city, well, that's about as ideal an opportunity to do that as you're ever going to get.  

I live in Lexington.  UK is traditionally not and SEC power, lol.  A byproduct of this is the inevitable scenario of people setting random things on fire, usually old furniture, when the Wildcats win against a national power.  One year, some students were arrested for attempting to burn down a vacant old house.  Has nothing to do with the game or anything else remotely meaningful.  It's just a chance to do something you'd never get away with otherwise.

More and more, I think we'll see that there's no conspiracy right or left behind "riot tourists" who have little to do with protests trying to take advantage of the disorder to do egregious things.  It's human nature, whether people admit it or not.

Groupthink at its finest (worst?).  You see stuff like this all the time from people who have no reason to act the way they do.  There are videos of a guy at some music festival drunkenly trying to walk across the top of a line of port-o-johns and the crowd responded by pelting him with a barrage of beer cans heavy with liquid.  Would one person do that?  No, but a group...hell yea, join the gang and throw!  Another one involved a different (I assume) drunk idiot climbing on top of a pole or post or something over a street while people were outside celebrate/rioting over something like a sports win or some such.  Numerous objects were thrown at this guy, and I think a bottle hit him and I don't recall if he fell but the point is that in a group something as serious as grievous assault or even attempted manslaughter is just all in good fun.

Groups of people are just not so awesome.

(06-07-2020, 11:15 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Groupthink at its finest (worst?).  You see stuff like this all the time from people who have no reason to act the way they do.  There are videos of a guy at some music festival drunkenly trying to walk across the top of a line of port-o-johns and the crowd responded by pelting him with a barrage of beer cans heavy with liquid.  Would one person do that?  No, but a group...hell yea, join the gang and throw!  Another one involved a different (I assume) drunk idiot climbing on top of a pole or post or something over a street while people were outside celebrate/rioting over something like a sports win or some such.  Numerous objects were thrown at this guy, and I think a bottle hit him and I don't recall if he fell but the point is that in a group something as serious as grievous assault or even attempted manslaughter is just all in good fun.

Groups of people are just not so awesome.

As Agent Kay said in MIB

Quote:A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

I love this quote because the flat earthers have since come back.

(06-07-2020, 10:50 PM)N_B Wrote: As soon as he brought up George Soros, you can kinda write off the opinion right there.  Nothing “moderate” or even reasonable about it

Yeah, I've never gotten the whole great and powerful Soros narrative.

Sorry I'm out of here. This thread has completely killed this board. I come here to get away from this shit, but it has infected Jungle Noise. Good Luck and the best for the upcoming season. Who-Dey/!!

(06-07-2020, 11:54 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Sorry I'm out of here. This thread has completely killed this board. I come here to get away from this shit, but it has infected Jungle Noise. Good Luck and the best for the upcoming season. Who-Dey/!!

I'm out of here too.  But I can't figure out how to delete my account.  Can someone respond with directions on how to delete it?