(07-12-2020, 07:23 PM)Earendil Wrote: Ok, I don't get the joke about Paul Alexander and There's Something About Mary.

It's honestly not a joke.  He's actually in the movie.  He's listed in the credits as W. Earl Brown because it was such a risque movie and he didn't want the Bengals to be associated with it, in case they disaproved.

Here's the story as I understand.  During the offseason he was playing in a little piano bar where he met the casting director of the movie.  I guess she really enjoyed his performace and told him he'd be perfect for a role they were auditioning.  They exchanged numbers and eventually he ended up flying out to LA to audition and got the part on the spot.  He chose the name "Earl Brown" because an earl is a person of nobility and Brown for Mike.  It was a nod to mike being such a noble and respected man.  He then added a W. because that's what he's all about, wins.

If you don't believe me see for yourself here he is. Believe it not he's actually wearing a Bengals shirt in this scene:

(07-12-2020, 09:27 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: It's honestly not a joke.  He's actually in the movie.  He's listed in the credits as W. Earl Brown because it was such a risque movie and he didn't want the Bengals to be associated with it, in case they disaproved.

Here's the story as I understand.  During the offseason he was playing in a little piano bar where he met the casting director of the movie.  I guess she really enjoyed his performace and told him he'd be perfect for a role they were auditioning.  They exchanged numbers and eventually he ended up flying out to LA to audition and got the part on the spot.  He chose the name "Earl Brown" because an earl is a person of nobility and Brown for Mike.  It was a nod to mike being such a noble and respected man.  He then added a W. because that's what he's all about, wins.

If you don't believe me see for yourself here he is. Believe it not he's actually wearing a Bengals shirt in this scene:

Holy shit!!! That is him... Franks and beans!!!

(07-12-2020, 09:16 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Slightly OT, but Warren was played by W. Earl Brown who was in the HBO series Deadwood. Which if you haven’t seen I highly recommend. Top 5 all time show for me. His character was in one of the best tv fights ever.

https://youtu.be/0rLOl14SLQ8

Holy shit!!!

I never would have realized Warren and Dan Dority were the same actor!!!!!!!

And you are spot on about Deadwood, easily a top 5 series...

I haven't seen the movie since it came out, so that's why I didn't recognize him.

(07-12-2020, 09:27 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: It's honestly not a joke.  He's actually in the movie.  He's listed in the credits as W. Earl Brown because it was such a risque movie and he didn't want the Bengals to be associated with it, in case they disaproved.

Here's the story as I understand.  During the offseason he was playing in a little piano bar where he met the casting director of the movie.  I guess she really enjoyed his performace and told him he'd be perfect for a role they were auditioning.  They exchanged numbers and eventually he ended up flying out to LA to audition and got the part on the spot.  He chose the name "Earl Brown" because an earl is a person of nobility and Brown for Mike.  It was a nod to mike being such a noble and respected man.  He then added a W. because that's what he's all about, wins.

If you don't believe me see for yourself here he is. Believe it not he's actually wearing a Bengals shirt in this scene:

His acting career ended quickly because he broke one of the basic rules of the business.  





 

(07-12-2020, 08:50 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: Alexander SUCKED as a coach.  He couldn’t last a season with another organization after leaving here and he still isn’t coaching.  The guy is wrong about so many things he says which will be fitting as a commentator on a sports channel.  Those blowhards are never right


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Tell that to Willie Anderson and Andrew Whitworth 2 should be Hall of Famers that Alexander coached.

(07-12-2020, 10:32 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Holy shit!!!

I never would have realized Warren and Dan Dority were the same actor!!!!!!!

And you are spot on about Deadwood, easily a top 5 series...

Yeah, I was shocked when I found out about that a few years ago. I watched all 3 seasons of Deadwood and having seen "Something about Mary" never made the connection. Franks and Beans was one mean dude in Deadwood. And the fact that Brown could pull off two totally different characters so convincingly says a lot about his acting ability as opposed to the Vince Vaughns, Ben Stillers and Will Ferrells of the world who basically play the same persona over and over..... (both of who I find highly entertaining)

(07-15-2020, 10:12 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Yeah, I was shocked when I found out about that a few years ago. I watched all 3 seasons of Deadwood and having seen "Something about Mary" never made the connection. Franks and Beans was one mean dude in Deadwood. And the fact that Brown could pull off two totally different characters so convincingly says a lot about his acting ability as opposed to the Vince Vaughns, Ben Stillers and Will Ferrells of the world who basically play the same persona over and over..... (both of who I find highly entertaining)

Did you watch the movie? I thought it was a pretty satisfying conclusion after all these years.

(07-15-2020, 12:19 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Did you watch the movie? I thought it was a pretty satisfying conclusion after all these years.

Oh yeah, numerous times.... love that show.

(07-12-2020, 12:03 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Marvin Lewis - Upon leaving he took a job as a commentator for the AAF Football League.  He then took a job with Herm Edwards at Arizona State as "Special Advisor".  He was recently promoted to Co-Defensive Coordinator

Bob Bratowski - After a 10 year career as our OC, he left in 2010.  He was the QB coach at Atlanta for one season in 2011. He was the OC for Jacksonville for one season in 2012. And he was the WR coach for Tennessee for one season in 2016. (Lotta one year stops).  He also served as an "offensive assistant" in a return to Cincinnati from '14-15.

Chuck Breshnahan - The former DC left here in 2007. He then spent 2 years with the Orlando Tuskers in '09 and '10.  He returned to the NFL in 2011 with the Raiders as their DC. He was let go after only one season.  He then coached as the DC for the Sacremento Mountain Lions in 2012.  Then he took a job as the DC for USF from '13-16.

Paul Alexander - After a 23 year career as the OL coach, and during Marvin's tenure also as the Assistant Head Coach, he finally left in 2017.  He then took over as the OL coach for the Cowboys in 2018.  He was fired after only 7 games.  Since then he does consulting work and speaking engagements.  He is currently an "offensive consultant" for the Potsdam Royals in the German Football League.  In his free time he likes to tickle the ivories and eat oreos by the box.  Fun fact: He has a supporting role in the movie There's Something About Mary, where he played Mary's brother Warren.

Jonathan Hayes - The Tight Ends coach for the entirety of Marvin Lewis tenure left after 16 years here.  In 2020 he was the head coach the St. Louis Battlehawks of the XFL.  His team went 3-1.  Fun Fact: His son is Jaxson Hayes who was a recent lottery pick in the NBA, and is tall as frack.

Jay Hayes - Johnathan's brother, who also spent a lot of years here.  For 13 years ('03-15) he was the DL coach.  After leaving Cincy he spent two years in Tampa Bay as their DL coach.  He is now listed on Green Bay's website as an "assistant defensive line".  Unfortunately he has no bio or years attatched to his profile. I'm not sure if he's still there, or when he was there.

Mike Zimmer -Zim left after serving as our DC for 6 seasons.  He became the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings in 2014.  His record over the time is 57-38-1 (.599%).  He's only had one losing season, and has never won less than 7 games.  He's been to playoffs 3 times, with trips to the Divisonal round in 2019 and the NFC Championship in 2017.  Zimmer is the baddest M'fer you'll find on this list and I wish he was still here.

Jay Gruden - Served as OC for 3 season from '11-'13.  He then took the head coaching job for the Washington Redskins. He was the coach their from 2014 through midway 2019.  Despite working for the biggest POS in the game in Daniel Snyder he did manage win totals of 9, 8, 7, and 7, which is a miracle for that dumpster fire of an organization.  He was recently hired by Jacksonsville as their OC.

Hue Jackson - 3 different stints here, which I won't cover in detail because his section will be huge.  Was the head coach of the Raiders where he was fired after one season, despite an 8-8 record.  Later served as the head coach of the Browns where he went 3-36-1, which is mindblowingly awful.  After returning for one season here in 2018, where he was something like the "team fluffer".  He was let go after one season.  Now I think he appears on podcasts or anywhere that will have him.

Kevin Coyle - Was our defensive backs coach from '01-11, and then again from '16-17.  After leaving he spent one year at LSU in 2018 as a "defensive analyst".  Most recently he served as the head coach of the Atlanta Legends in the AAF, where he went 2-5.

Vance Joseph - He was our DB coach for two seasons in '14 and '15.  After leaving he was the DC for the Dolphins in '16. He was then hired to be the head coach of the Broncos, where he went 11-21 in two seasons.  He's now the DC for the Arizona Cardinals.  Joseph is one of the better guys on this list as far as career success since leaving.

Paul Guenther - Spent 13 years here in various capacites from '05-17, with the last 4 serving as DC.  He has been with the Raiders since 2018 as their DC.

Ken Zampese - He was our QB coach from '03-15, and then spent two years as our OC in '16 and '17.  He was here for 15 of Marvin Lewis 16 years.  After leaving he spent a year as the QB coach for the Browns in '18.  In '19 he was the OC for the Atlanta Legends in the AAF, also worked as "quality control coach" for the University of Florida.  He was recently hired by the Redskins to be their QB coach for 2020.

Bill Lazor - Served as our QB coach for one season (2016, and was our OC for two seasons ('17, '18).  After leaving he spent a year with Penn State as an analyst. He was recently hired to be the OC for the Chicago Bears.  Wtf, Bears?

Alex Van Pelt - Spent two years as our QB coach  in '18-19. Was recently hired to be the OC for the Cleveland Browns.

None of these are employed by the Bengals by the author's own admissions this is not fit for JN.

You moved a post about Gruden, because he wasn't a Bengal what is different here?

(07-16-2020, 11:47 PM)PAjwPhilly Wrote: None of these are employed by the Bengals by the authors own admissions this is not fit for JN

Go look at thread, and see my reply.

It didn't belong on JN because once the story actually broke 99% of the speculation proved to be bs.  Jay Gruden had nothing to do with the article.  It seems incredibly unfair to attach him to those rumors.

JN is not the place to be having discussions about the executives in the front office of the Redskins.  Read the story for yourself and then tell me how in any way you can have a discussion related to the Bengals.

(07-17-2020, 12:00 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Go look at thread, and see my reply.

It didn't belong on JN because once the story actually broke 99% of the speculation proved to be bs.  Jay Gruden had nothing to do with the article.  It seems incredibly unfair to attach him to those rumors.

JN is not the place to be having discussions about the executives in the front office of the Redskins.  Read the story for yourself and then tell me how in any way you can have a discussion related to the Bengals.

JN is about "everything and anything" Bengals...... The article even said they had nothing on him. READ IT instead of judging it.

Gruden was fired last year. He is not a Redskin. He isn't anything right now.... BUT he is a former coach at the Cincinnati Bengals.... so he is part of the Bengals history and he fits "everything and anything" Bengals....\

Just because you don't like something... doesn't mean you get to change it.  Free speech. I don't like a lot of crap. But I have no right to censorship.

(07-17-2020, 12:06 AM)PAjwPhilly Wrote: JN is about "everything and anything" Bengals...... The article even said they had nothing on him. READ IT instead of judging it.

Gruden was fired last year. He is not a Redskin. He isn't anything right now.... BUT he is a former coach at the Cincinnati Bengals.... so he is part of the Bengals history and he fits "everything and anything" Bengals....\

Just because you don't like something... doesn't mean you get to change it.  Free speech. I don't like a lot of crap. But I have no right to censorship.

I appreciate it, but it's not worth it. 

(07-17-2020, 12:14 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I appreciate it, but it's not worth it. 

I know. And I am aware of the favor given to whom I argue against.... But wrong is wrong.

And just like Pistons. I love these guys, but just differ greatly on the slightest of issues.

For what it is worth, I love Wes in 99.99% of posts.  I loved Pistons until he turned so bitter and anti-Bengal.

(07-17-2020, 12:23 AM)PAjwPhilly Wrote: I know. And I am aware of the favor given to whom I argue against.... But wrong is wrong.

And just like Pistons. I love these guys, but just differ greatly on the slightest of issues.

For what it is worth, I love Wes in 99.99% of posts.  I loved Pistons until he turned so bitter and anti-Bengal.

There is no favor. The rule is this:

If the thread is about a former Bengal who is currently with another team (Gruden is OC of the Jaguars, FYI), the thread usually gets moved.

If the thread involves former Bengals who are retired or unsigned (this thread involves many of those), the thread is free to stay.

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Although I get that a detailed explanation won't change the narratives some people create.

(07-12-2020, 01:00 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: That must be a side hustle.  He has said his main deal right now is consulting and tutoring to NCAA and NFL lineman and line coaches on the proper way to get ketchup out of a bottle.

FIFY

(07-20-2020, 01:34 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: FIFY

And with good reason.  We can see that in your signature, where #74 is using a mustard technique for a ketchup bottle, with disastrous results for the bad guys.

(07-12-2020, 03:30 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Agree with Zimmer being the best on the list. Loved that guy and hated when he left. I remember when his wife passed and the team rallied around him. It was horrible and great at the same time. I think many of us thought he might take over Marvins HC spot at one time, but Marvin held on way too long and we missed that opportunity.

That Baltimore game the Defense won for him.... and the reaction of the team as the clock ticked down.

(07-21-2020, 08:06 PM)jj22 Wrote: That Baltimore game the Defense won for him.... and the reaction of the team as the clock ticked down.

Priceless!

(07-21-2020, 08:06 PM)jj22 Wrote: That Baltimore game the Defense won for him.... and the reaction of the team as the clock ticked down.

I have said it many times in different threads.

I am plenty old enough to remember both Super Bowl runs, but no single game has ever had a bigger impact on me than that one.