(01-17-2021, 01:47 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Why do people keep saying Mike Daniels performed well? He played 11 games with 17 (7 solo) tackles and no sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB hit and no other stats. The whole DT room needs cleaned out except for Reader and maybe Wren and Tupou. Then draft somebody that can play DE in 3 man fronts and DT in 4 man fronts, in the first 3 rounds.

He’s not a pass rusher. He was a depth signing. I thought before his injury he had a good impact against the run. If we can resign him for depth I’d be good with it. But you may be correct. I’d certainly be happy to see a good Dt fall to us in the 2nd or later rounds. It’ll be interesting to see what Hobby does with the group.

(01-17-2021, 02:21 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I'd prefer to keep Covington over Daniels, if we retain either as a depth run stopper.

He filled in well for sure. With all the injuries, lots of young players got experience. Definitely a blessing in disguise. Hopefully they stay a little healthier this year. Reader will make everyone look better too.

meh....I guess it's better than hiring the assistant of the guy you just fired.

(01-17-2021, 01:47 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Why do people keep saying Mike Daniels performed well? He played 11 games with 17 (7 solo) tackles and no sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB hit and no other stats. The whole DT room needs cleaned out except for Reader and maybe Wren and Tupou. Then draft somebody that can play DE in 3 man fronts and DT in 4 man fronts, in the first 3 rounds.

Numbers for DTs are never going to look glorious on some stat sheet.

(01-16-2021, 07:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He has a much longer resume than Eason. So at least he’s coming with a lot of experience. Some good stops, too. I like it.

Wonder why he would come here and play for a "in over his head HC".........

(01-16-2021, 03:20 PM)JWW1971 Wrote: Same guy that coached Reader through his college years, very good hire

Excellent point. Reader needs to be the leader on defense as well.  I am sure that was a part of the design behind Hobby.  Hobby design?  Sounds like a store.  

(01-17-2021, 11:37 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Numbers for DTs are never going to look glorious on some stat sheet.

Not for tackles, but sacks and TFLs they can.

There were nine DTs with 8+ TFLs in 2020.
There were seven DTs with 6+ sacks in 2020.

Daniels had 0 sacks, 1 TFL, and 1 total pressure.

I think the big thing with Daniels is people expected him to be near the level of old Geno Atkins. 
The reality is he hasn't had more than 2.0 sacks and 2 TFLs since 2017. He also wasn't good at pressuring the QB in either DET or CIN.

(01-17-2021, 02:21 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I'd prefer to keep Covington over Daniels, if we retain either as a depth run stopper.

Xavier Williams was our best IDL last year 

(01-16-2021, 03:48 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I agree, glad that the Bengals actually interviewed multiple candidates, rather than just hiring the first guy that seemed agreeable.  I do find it to be a bonus that he coached Reader at Clemson.

According to Bengals Wire....Reader played a bit of a role in getting this guy.


EDIT, link:

https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/17/dj-reader-clemson-connection-lure-marion-hobby-bengals/

(01-16-2021, 01:26 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/16/cincinnati-bengals-hire-marion-hobby-dl-coach/

Nice grab, this guy has a nice Hobby of coaching good D-lines.

Seriously though, this guy has done a lot of great things. Love it.

(01-16-2021, 01:49 PM)samhain Wrote: Seems like a solid hire.

but why was he fired?

(01-17-2021, 01:47 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Why do people keep saying Mike Daniels performed well? He played 11 games with 17 (7 solo) tackles and no sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB hit and no other stats. The whole DT room needs cleaned out except for Reader and maybe Wren and Tupou. Then draft somebody that can play DE in 3 man fronts and DT in 4 man fronts, in the first 3 rounds.

First off, he was a depth guy brought in. It's like asking your specialty relief pitcher to now give you two innings. You rarely measure DT's in stats. Bengals need a top DE and someone opponents have to account for and develop a scheme. Haven't had that since Carlos was wearing belle bottoms.

With the ability of the LB's, a really good DE brought in and a little more luck in the DL staying healthy I like this front 7.

(01-19-2021, 10:50 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: but why was he fired?

He wasn't

(01-19-2021, 10:50 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: but why was he fired?

Position coaches only get 2 year contracts, I believe. 

(01-20-2021, 02:45 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Position coaches only get 2 year contracts, I believe. 

okay he just either never gets retained or loves to move around lol

Glad to read about the Reader recommendation.

(01-20-2021, 09:45 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: okay he just either never gets retained or loves to move around lol

I believe he was a fall guy in Jacksonville. No idea why Miami didn't retain him.

(01-21-2021, 02:34 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I believe he was a fall guy in Jacksonville. No idea why Miami didn't retain him.

Miami has been about as bad as us in decision making for awhile now.

I put no stock into it.

I like us getting Pollack and Hobby.