(04-22-2022, 07:44 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Yeah, I don't want to put any kind of Brady/Belichek pressure on them (not saying you are), but what they did with a flawed roster last year is nothing short of amazing.  Thankfully, the rest of the world still doesn't seem to believe in them, but I think Burrow wouldn't flinch if everyone expected them to win the Super Bowl either.

When you bring up the 49ers, I think how this year they have a different (very inexperienced) QB, and now Deebo Samual is asking out...reportedly not due to money, but longevity (doesn't like being a RB, I guess...which is true....much shorter career) but that also adds up to money, so we will see.  

Aaron Donald of the Rams is reportedly looking for more money, too.  

I compare this to Cincy and how the Bengals got three veteran FAs on the offensive line...all from very competitive programs, and the outward appearance that this is a destination people now want to be.  It could be the well-documented "Burrow Effect", but if the players also didn't like the coaching staff, they probably wouldn't have any interest.  At least to date, we haven't had anyone threaten to sit out, or go public with the "I'm not reporting until I get a new contract".  There is just such a great culture here right now.  Guys that are leaders and that are "all about ball".  I really credit ZT for a lot of that.  

(04-22-2022, 07:54 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Weighing in on the Watson-led Browns discussion (thanks, I invited myself...):  While I think on paper the team looks lethal with Watson, Chubb, Cooper, Ward, and Garrett, I can't help but think that a guy coming in that hasn't taken a single snap with the team, who is likely to be suspended for at LEAST five games, yet had his contract structured so his game check salary year 1 is next to nothing and won't really lose much money from his ridiculous guaranteed contract, is bound to create some issues.

People can't help it.  It is human nature to compare your value and your salary to others.  Watson will be sitting on the bench (or more likely a couch at home) drawing multiple times more money than anyone else on the Browns.  Yes, QBs get paid more.  But I still can't help thinking the extenuating circumstances surrounding Watson will be a distraction and a potential source of division.  There are also some people bound to be in Baker's camp and feel the QB that played injured got a raw deal.  

It is as though teams (the Browns aren't the only one) looked at the Bengals and thought:  "Hey, if the Bengals can do it, all we are missing is a QB like Burrow (Browns).  Or "we need a WR like Chase to make our offense click" (Raiders).   There is so much more to it from a culture and chemistry standpoint.  That being said, I think the Raiders are the surprise team from the AFC West.  

(04-22-2022, 02:20 PM)kevin Wrote: Again, this thread stinks.   The Bengals were in THE SUPER BOWL in February and it only took 2 months for some fans to go back to being Wimpy Bengals Fans.  WIMPY is the correct word.  Not the Popeye character that loved hamburgers.  No, WIMPY as in WEAK.  I understand the decades of losing created a WEAK and WIMPY Fan Base, but THE BENGALS were just in THE SUPER BOWL 2 months ago.

So to the WIMPY who agree with this thread, and to the Browns, Steelers, Ravens Trolls on here, I say this....



             

(04-22-2022, 06:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This type of naive overconfidence is the reason only 4 teams in the last 25 years have made it to back-to-back Super Bowls.

"Ooooh, look at us.  We made it to the Super Bowl.  Nobody can beat us!"

(04-22-2022, 06:47 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Except....... that's not what he said...

(04-22-2022, 06:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: He is guaranteeing that we win the division.  You really want to start splitting semantic hairs?

At least I did not make an entire post based on nothing but personal insults.

(04-22-2022, 07:20 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Split semantic hairs with you? 
There isn't enough time in the day to keep up with your splitting semantic hairs.

(04-23-2022, 10:28 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Whatever.

A guy makes a post that is nothing but personal insults against anyone who disagrees with him, but I am the bad guy.

This board is a little pathetic sometimes. 

(04-23-2022, 11:17 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Sometimes it’s good to look in the mirror and see why so many quarrel with you ?

(04-23-2022, 10:28 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Whatever.

A guy makes a post that is nothing but personal insults against anyone who disagrees with him, but I am the bad guy.

This board is a little pathetic sometimes. 

(04-23-2022, 12:48 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I looked in the mirror and I saw a guy who does not use personal insults in his debates here.

And I don't understand why so many of you are supporting a guy who did that over me.

Quote:The problem with all you whiners is that you can't just say that the Bengals made mistakes. That does not make you big enough victims I guess. Instead you have to make up total bullshit about them "not even trying".

(02-16-2021, 03:15 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Meh.

One single playoff win is not really that big of a deal.  As soon as we win one the whiners won't celebrate.  Instead they will just shift to "Playoff wins are meaningless if you don't win a championship.  Celebrating a playoff win is just accepting mediocrity."

(10-14-2020, 10:42 AM)fredtoast Wrote: It does not matter.

If Dalton had won a playoff game here the whiners would have said "Nothing matters but Championships.  Celebrating a playoff win is just accepting mediocrity."

(10-07-2019, 05:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The wimpy whiners strike again.

When you disprove their logic they give up and just repeat unsubstantiated claims.

"It doesn't matter when a receiver drops a TD.  Other QBs complete plenty of passes when the defender drops the ball. Derp!"

(11-05-2018, 02:33 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What exactly do Marvin and Mike have to do with the severity of Greens injury.

I hear all the negative whiners around here claim they are just "realist" because they have seen so many years of Mike and Marvin, but now it seems like these "realists" somehow know that Green will be out for the season.

So please enlighten me on how Mike and Marvin control how long Green will be out.  Because the only ones saying he is out for the year are the "realists".

Seems to me there is a strong correlation between people who call themselves "realists" and wimpy whiners who love to squeal and moan and always assume the worst even when it involves injures that Marvin and Mike have no control over.

(04-23-2022, 01:34 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Yeah never.  

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Official-Bengals-Free-Agency-Thread?pid=1001412&highlight=whiners#pid1001412


 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Today-s-11-000-Days-Since-Last-Playoff-Win?pid=991576&highlight=whiners#pid991576


http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-How-does-Taylor-stack-up-to-worst-coaches-in-NFL-history?pid=927607&highlight=whiners#pid927607


This two are also interesting since you used the same language "wimpy" as the person you are critical of:

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774524&highlight=whiners#pid774524


http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Shefter-AJ-Green-will-miss-some-games?pid=625164&highlight=wimpy#pid625164


And those are just a few examples.  

(04-23-2022, 01:54 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are absolutely correct.  I have resorted to personal attacks in the past.  I will try to do better.

(04-22-2022, 05:41 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Zac and company have created a standard on how to build a shitty team into a contender.

(04-23-2022, 04:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Suck your way into Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase and then spend tons of money on FAs for multiple offseasons?  

(04-23-2022, 04:52 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Tbf they at least spent wisely with those FA dollars (except Waynes). It’s not like they really went out and made any super splashy additions. Maybe Hendrickson? Other than that it was just good solid signings like Bell, Awuzie, Reader, Hilton, etc.

(04-23-2022, 04:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Suck your way into Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase and then spend tons of money on FAs for multiple offseasons?  

(04-23-2022, 10:28 AM)fredtoast Wrote: This board is a little pathetic sometimes. 

(04-22-2022, 08:27 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Because football is a team sport.

And isn't 28-25 better than 12-13-1