(11-17-2017, 04:05 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: I know I wouldn't be done with the Bengals, but.... I wouldn't buy any Bengal related gear, and I would only watch them on TV and not go to games. Honestly, I would probably just stop keeping up with the NFL all together. Even fantasy

(11-17-2017, 04:56 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Who's to say Katie would be any different than the prince of darkness?

(11-17-2017, 03:15 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I’m optimistic that MB retires from football operations after this season and lets Katie put her stamp on the franchise with her first big highering of a new HC and possible more coaching staff changes.

(11-17-2017, 02:48 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: well I think we were 4-11-1 that year... lol But I believe the only reason he was brought back after the 2010 season is due to the lockout and inability to get a new coach time with players.

And it seemed a good move because the next 5 years were the best 5 year stretch I have ever witnessed as a bengals fan.

(11-17-2017, 05:17 PM)jason Wrote: Hell she may be worse... I ain't shit compared to my dad.

(11-17-2017, 05:22 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: While that sounds amazing in theory, you have to look at the flip side of things as well. What makes anyone believe that Katie can run this team any better than her Father did? She learned how to run the team and make money by watching him do it, so is she taking over the team to make money or to win. If she sticks to the family beliefs of her Father, we are screwed. If someone how someway, there is a small shred of dignity in her to honor her Grandfather, then perhaps we have a chance to see real change. 

Sadly, from what I've seen since Paul Brown died, that family's honor and dignity died with him.

(11-17-2017, 05:22 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: While that sounds amazing in theory, you have to look at the flip side of things as well. What makes anyone believe that Katie can run this team any better than her Father did? She learned how to run the team and make money by watching him do it, so is she taking over the team to make money or to win. If she sticks to the family beliefs of her Father, we are screwed. If someone how someway, there is a small shred of dignity in her to honor her Grandfather, then perhaps we have a chance to see real change. 

Sadly, from what I've seen since Paul Brown died, that family's honor and dignity died with him.

(11-17-2017, 05:36 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I’m not sure just watching how her father does things is a predictor of how Katie would do things. I mean look no further than Mike learning from Paul.

(11-17-2017, 05:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Katie has written up contracts and just seems smarter from what i have noticed.

I would be willing to bet she would be much better than her dad.

(11-17-2017, 02:16 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote:

This defense of Marvin Lewis from Willie Anderson got me thinking. What if there are no serious changes? What if this winds up being 2010 all over again? Back then, Marvin went into the season as a supposed "lame duck". He responded by losing 10 straight on the way to a 4-12 season. Of course, we all know what happened afterward:



The only change made after that debacle was Bratkowski getting fired in way late January, after all the good candidates were taken. We did get lucky with Jay Gruden, but no other teams were sniffing him as an O coordinator candidate. So one change - a new OC - after a massively disappointing season (based on league-wide expectations) and 10 straight L's resulted in Mike Brown finally firing Bob Bratkowski after 3 straight years of finishing 22nd or worse in points. Wow.

Mike Brown has always been this way. Just check out this article from 2000 about Kenny Anderson's demotion.


This is who Mike Brown is. He will fight tooth and nail not to fire coaches. He's only fired 2 head coaches in 26 year span that includes 15 losing seasons and no playoff wins. Coordinators are usually given an incredible amount of rope, and really have to tank hard for several seasons to get fired.

So what will you do if Mike, Paul Alexander and crew are all back for another fun-filled season? What if the only change is hiring a permanent OC?

(11-17-2017, 06:18 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I'm with you man, I'm very hopeful that things change. I just fear that she'll take after her dad and focus more on making money then putting a winning team on the field. 



I hope she does, but if she is doing the contracts, doesn't that make her the same person who let Zeitler walk away by low balling him on his contract offer? That has to cause a little bit of concern.

(11-17-2017, 02:29 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I'll probably never be able to say 'I'm done' with this team and actually mean it - but if nothing changes and Marvin is re-signed, my overall interest level would be at near an all-time low. It would just be very hard to get excited for more of the same old, same old.

(11-17-2017, 09:18 PM)bengalhoel Wrote: It isn't even fun anymore. Same problems over and over again. 
 I knew the O-line was going to be awful, but why can we never cover a TE still? 
 Why do we always get penalties on 3rd down extending drives for the other team?
 Why is there always a WR running free even when we only rush 3?
 Why are there so many missed tackles?
 Why can't our receivers learn the playbook, besides A.J.?
 Why do the Bengals talk about how big of a game the Steelers is, and then get the shit kicked out of us every year? 
 Did anyone see the A.J Green mock choke slam TD celebration a couple weeks ago? 
That has to be coaching right? 

(11-17-2017, 05:32 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Some say that greatness, like pattern baldness, sometimes skips a generation.  All we can hope for is for that adage to prove to be an axiom.

But as to the question in the OP? I'd still be around, just more grumbling than praising. I'm too old for changing colors, if you know what I mean.

(11-17-2017, 08:42 PM)Interceptor Wrote: The only positive thing I can say is... I am happy for Rex Burkhead.