(09-01-2018, 06:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It is not just PFF that sees that Westerman has been better than the other Guards not named Boling.

I see it, sure it is my opinion but to say he has not played well is untrue.

I don't put much stock in PFF, i trust my eyes but i think they are kind of right about Westerman playing well.

He played good against the Colts (backups granted) at RG. Just don't know why he isn't given a shot to start.

Would like Cooper here though of course.

I was one of the many people that loved the Pollack pickup but if he has a doghouse like PA did for players i am
not as big of a fan. My only gripe with Pollack if this is his doghouse and not Marv's with Westerman. Have to give
the players that play the best the chance to start regardless of practice or whatever.

Westerman plays good on game day when given a chance.

(09-01-2018, 06:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It is not just PFF that sees that Westerman has been better than the other Guards not named Boling.

I see it, sure it is my opinion but to say he has not played well is untrue.

I don't put much stock in PFF, i trust my eyes but i think they are kind of right about Westerman playing well.

He played good against the Colts (backups granted) at RG. Just don't know why he isn't given a shot to start.

Would like Cooper here though of course.

I was one of the many people that loved the Pollack pickup but if he has a doghouse like PA did for players i am
not as big of a fan. My only gripe with Pollack if this is his doghouse and not Marv's with Westerman. Have to give
the players that play the best the chance to start regardless of practice or whatever.

Westerman plays good on game day when given a chance.

(09-01-2018, 10:01 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: If we bring in anybody, I’d prefer youth and upside.

(09-01-2018, 06:58 PM)Au165 Wrote: So you know better than two O line coaches who feel he isn’t good enough to start?

(09-01-2018, 06:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It is not just PFF that sees that Westerman has been better than the other Guards not named Boling.

I see it, sure it is my opinion but to say he has not played well is untrue.

I don't put much stock in PFF, i trust my eyes but i think they are kind of right about Westerman playing well.

He played good against the Colts (backups granted) at RG. Just don't know why he isn't given a shot to start.

Would like Cooper here though of course.

I was one of the many people that loved the Pollack pickup but if he has a doghouse like PA did for players i am
not as big of a fan. My only gripe with Pollack if this is his doghouse and not Marv's with Westerman. Have to give
the players that play the best the chance to start regardless of practice or whatever.

Westerman plays good on game day when given a chance.

(09-02-2018, 03:24 AM)grampahol Wrote: Not to play devils advocate, but someone has to be the weakest link on even the best teams. I suspect Cooper was that guy. 

(09-02-2018, 10:22 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Even if true, I'd take the weakest link on the Cowboys line over the weakest link on our line. 

The Cowboys gave up 32 sacks and finished 2nd in rushing (3rd in YPC). We haven't had a season that good in both of those categories since 1988, when an excellent line led us to the Super Bowl.

(09-02-2018, 10:31 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Here the problem with that logic, he has been on 5 team rosters in 7 years, so sounds like he cant even be the weakest link and if the answer back is he has been hurt a lot I dont want him, I might not like the trio of our guards but they are healthy and know the system now.

(09-02-2018, 10:31 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Here the problem with that logic, he has been on 5 team rosters in 7 years, so sounds like he cant even be the weakest link and if the answer back is he has been hurt a lot I dont want him, I might not like the trio of our guards but they are healthy and know the system now.

(09-02-2018, 10:56 AM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Cooper is worth an add because he’s better than at least 2 OL we kept. But he has not lived up to his draft spot by any means, and he’s not starting caliber. I’d take him over Cedric 6 days a week and 33 times on Sundays.

(09-01-2018, 04:24 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: So true, easy to see.

If a player plays better than the guy ahead of him give the player that is playing better a shot to start.

Don't know why i seem to argue this with people every dang year.

(09-02-2018, 11:15 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 3. Andre Smith had more injuries than Cooper, and most on here loved that guy. We also have Cordy Glenn, who has had his fair share of injuries lately.

(09-01-2018, 06:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I was one of the many people that loved the Pollack pickup but if he has a doghouse like PA did for players i am
not as big of a fan.

(09-01-2018, 03:40 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes, he will know.

I think he would be an upgrade myself if we are refusing to start Westerman no matter what.

Redmond has been a penalty machine and Hopkins is just a backup.

(09-02-2018, 11:15 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. Not sure who you're looking at, but Cooper has only played 5 years.
2. He started 13 games for the Cowboys last year.
3. Andre Smith had more injuries than Cooper, and most on here loved that guy. We also have Cordy Glenn, who has had his fair share of injuries lately.
4. Cooper is more familiar with the o-line coach than any guy on our roster.


...and in the end, that's really all that matters. I'd plug him in at RG over Trey Hopkins without blinking.

That said, signing him doesn't even mean we have to start him.

He could be insurance in case there are problems, and his familiarity with Pollack would automatically give him a leg up.

(09-02-2018, 08:24 AM)wildcats forever Wrote: You, me, and a lot of others have been praising Pollack ever since he got here. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on this. He has his reasons, a few of which we aren't privy to at the moment, so let's watch and see if we learn something that has yet to become clear. Chances are Pollack wants Westerman to succeed as.much as we want. 

(09-02-2018, 10:42 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Even as a G he is probably a better RT than Cedric

(09-02-2018, 11:42 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Not even close.  In Dres first five years he played in 59 games including 50 starts.

In Coopers first five seasons he has played in 42 games with about half as many starts as Dre (27) .

(09-02-2018, 11:58 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well that is even worse that he has been on 5 teams in 5 year,,woo not good. My point is he is injury prone at this time after cuts I would not pick him up if injury question to CUT  a healthy guard, let's look first at guard that is healthy to replace Redmond or westerman