(11-26-2018, 02:44 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: We don't need to over haul the roster completely. I would only consider trading 3 players Vontaz, Boyd, and if a spectacular deal comes for him Green. Other than that no. Sign a free agent LB, Draft a LB, s Draft a RT, and Draft a TE. You can do that  in one cycle. It's not a 4 or 5 year build like you're claiming it to be.

(11-26-2018, 01:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I know this will be unpopular, but we might need to start trading these guys rather than lose them in free agency.

My favorite player AJ Green...trade him to the Patriots for a 1st and 3rd Round pick. He's starting to rack up injuries and is going to be a free agent soon and he's over 30 years old.

Guys like Atkins and Dunlap should be traded too if we can find a taker willing to give 1st Round picks.

We're looking at a 2-3-4 year rebuild...and unfortunately our stars are 30 years old and won't be productive at a high level when that completes.

(11-26-2018, 01:29 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: I would support this if a complete overhaul of the coaching staff took place and quite possibly a GM put into place even though that's a big wish list.
This staff cannot bring us a winner as has been evidenced since Paul Brown died so many years ago.

(11-26-2018, 02:55 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: The 'magnitude' of that plan of action over one off season would give Mikey headaches and convulsions. The tree sloth cannot move that fast!

(11-26-2018, 01:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I know this will be unpopular, but we might need to start trading these guys rather than lose them in free agency.

My favorite player AJ Green...trade him to the Patriots for a 1st and 3rd Round pick. He's starting to rack up injuries and is going to be a free agent soon and he's over 30 years old.

Guys like Atkins and Dunlap should be traded too if we can find a taker willing to give 1st Round picks.

We're looking at a 2-3-4 year rebuild...and unfortunately our stars are 30 years old and won't be productive at a high level when that completes.

(11-26-2018, 02:44 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: We don't need to over haul the roster completely. I would only consider trading 3 players Vontaz, Boyd, and if a spectacular deal comes for him Green. Other than that no. Sign a free agent LB, Draft a LB, s Draft a RT, and Draft a TE. You can do that  in one cycle. It's not a 4 or 5 year build like you're claiming it to be.

(11-26-2018, 03:45 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: I don't get why he can't though it's simple. 

(11-26-2018, 04:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I agree with LBs, RT, and TE. However, you forgot to mention plan for RG and slot CB.
For RG, are you moving Westerman or Price to RG? Because all other guards are set to become FAs and frankly not worth starting at that spot. If you're moving Price to RG, you have to figure out what to do with C.
For slot CB, Dennard becomes a FA after this year. Are you re-signing him or no? If you don't re-sign him, how are you addressing that position?

(11-26-2018, 05:42 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: I would move Boiling to RG and put Westerman at LG. Resign Dennard if not I think Phillips can do the Job for him.

(11-26-2018, 05:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: I honestly would like to Cut Dre and move his money to Dennard and let Dennard play on the outside. We'd take a 4.2 million cap hit next year, so roll the remaining 7 million we would have paid Dre to Dennard. That would pay Dennard like a mid level CB 2. 

(11-26-2018, 05:53 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Honestly Dre is an albatross contract I still have no idea why they signed him for that. Dennard is a lot better to him. Also had a thought to move him to SS and move williams to LB.

(11-26-2018, 01:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I know this will be unpopular, but we might need to start trading these guys rather than lose them in free agency.

My favorite player AJ Green...trade him to the Patriots for a 1st and 3rd Round pick. He's starting to rack up injuries and is going to be a free agent soon and he's over 30 years old.

Guys like Atkins and Dunlap should be traded too if we can find a taker willing to give 1st Round picks.

We're looking at a 2-3-4 year rebuild...and unfortunately our stars are 30 years old and won't be productive at a high level when that completes.

(11-26-2018, 02:44 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: We don't need to over haul the roster completely. I would only consider trading 3 players Vontaz, Boyd, and if a spectacular deal comes for him Green. Other than that no. Sign a free agent LB, Draft a LB, s Draft a RT, and Draft a TE. You can do that in one cycle. It's not a 4 or 5 year build like you're claiming it to be.

(11-26-2018, 07:12 PM)jason Wrote: Nobody drafted Vontaze when he was good. He's a shell of himself now. Nobody's trading for him.

(11-26-2018, 06:41 PM)Stonyhands Wrote: What the hell good with a number 1 do for us?  Look at how much we’ve gained with #1s in the last three years...not a damn thing. So let’s trade away a proven commodity in Green...

A new coaching staff is needed as is a different strategy then Mike Brown has employed in the past.  There are a few holes on this team but those can get filled by drafting for need next year by being aggressive and doing what it takes to get the best players in the draft at the position we need.  This instead of always taking the second best by letting teams pick our player right before us.  Being aggressive early in free agency to fill other key positions and cutting Marvin Lewis type no heart rejects.

(11-26-2018, 07:12 PM)jason Wrote: Nobody drafted Vontaze when he was good. He's a shell of himself now. Nobody's trading for him.

(11-26-2018, 10:14 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: I would argue if motivated the guy could still be what everyone wants him to be. Put him in the right place and he will be great again. The problem with him his motivation not skill.