(01-24-2020, 10:23 AM)Synric Wrote: I think his best fit is with Arians in Tampa Bay but yea he needs to sit and like you said even then might not ever breakout.

Quote:In the team scrimmage of the two-minute drill, Love made an awful pass for an interception. Ohio State linebacker Malik Harrison backpedaled down the middle seam, and Love threw the pass right to him. Harrison tipped the ball to himself before controlling it for an interception. Perhaps a receiver ran the wrong route, but it was a terrible throw otherwise, as there wasn't a wide out within 10 yards of Harrison. Regardless of the route, that play further enforced the field vision problems that Love has.

Love came back to make some nice plays in the red zone scrimmage, lofting a touchdown pass in the corner of the end zone to a tight en with a perfectly placed pass that dropped right into the hands of his receiver. Shortly later, Love showed his feet and athleticism on a zone read run, darting into the end zone. Love had some other good passes in the seven-on-seven scrimmage, showing the arm and accuracy to beat coverage.

There is no doubt that Love has a very good skill set with special arm talent, but his field vision is a serious weakness at this time. He is going to need developmental time in the NFL and should not be forced into the starting lineup immediately. Team sources were saying that Love is not ready to start, and his career would be better off if he started out as a backup.

(01-24-2020, 01:39 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Apparently u guys aren’t watching the senior bowl.... he was the highest rated player on day 2 and 3 by a wide margin, he’s been getting praise out the wazoo for it, and also was noted he’s been the only qb throwing it deep. All the other qbs are playing it safe with horizontal passes. He’s been going deep. First quotes then video

(01-24-2020, 10:17 AM)Au165 Wrote: His deep ball accuracy is inconsistent.

Love can’t connect with Davis pic.twitter.com/iAB7KpenZv

— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) January 23, 2020

His ability to actually read defenses is the biggest question, and he wouldn't be the first QB to fail because he couldn't.

Jordan Love picked off by Malik Harrison. pic.twitter.com/y4lwqtVkoy

— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) January 23, 2020

I just don't see it, not now and not in his tape, but if you want to tell me he sits for a year or two in New Orleans maybe I could buy it. The issue is everyone points to Mahomes but fails to acknowledge he got to sit a year with one of the best QB friendly coaches in the league. If Love goes to just some team he won't be heard from again and that is not a top 15 pick in the draft type of player as people are pushing him as. 

(01-24-2020, 11:15 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Nope. Work and lack of interest to try to watch practices. I find it more efficient to compare notes from various sources. And from all sources I've read, Love has been great in some aspects and bad in some others. When you compare that to his college tape and scouting reports already written about him, it's all consistent.

Dude is a project with great tools.

(01-24-2020, 05:40 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: That's what I hate the most about the senior bowl when it comes to QBs. It's all practice. All these guys look great in practice. Then they play in a game where theres no real defensive game planning. And guess what? Almost all of these guys look great.

That being said, you have to go back and watch the college games. There's a reason why Burrow looked as good as he did - his mental game. there's a reason why Herbert constantly came up small in big games and why Love looked like crap this year.\

I really hate to say this, but if the Bengals passed on Burrow, I don't think I'd really be that interested in watching games this year. It will take me a long time to get over it.

(01-25-2020, 04:48 AM)Jpoore Wrote: I’m not touting him in the top 15. I’m saying if we didn’t go qb at 1, and he’s there at 33, u play dalton for 2020 then move on to love(ala mahomes Smith)
I mean he did just win best qb award voted on by the position group he went against.

But see that’s the point. Most believe that loves issues in 19 were due to coaching. That’s why today’s game is so important. It’ll either prove them wrong or right. But u get to see him coached by a Actual coaching staff and Reports are mainly good.

(01-25-2020, 04:48 AM)Jpoore Wrote: I’m not touting him in the top 15. I’m saying if we didn’t go qb at 1, and he’s there at 33, u play dalton for 2020 then move on to love(ala mahomes Smith)
I mean he did just win best qb award voted on by the position group he went against.

But see that’s the point. Most believe that loves issues in 19 were due to coaching. That’s why today’s game is so important. It’ll either prove them wrong or right. But u get to see him coached by a Actual coaching staff and Reports are mainly good.

(01-26-2020, 01:10 PM)Okeana Wrote: threads like this make me sick. We have a shot at 3 incredibly talented qb's even if we do trade and you end up talking about this scrub. SHAME

(01-28-2020, 05:07 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: The game proves nothing.  You can't get fooled by these practices and workouts.  The only thing that is tried and true is the game performance.  I've seen enough of Herbert to know that he is a large step below Burrow and Tua.  If you want to put Herbert and Love in the same category, that only tells me that Herbert should be a mid first rounder.

You can't fix what's between the ears.  I've yet to see a QB come into the league and have coaches say "he's great physically, but he just doesn't get it mentally" and have a successful career.

(01-31-2020, 03:59 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Scrub? Again he would go top 5 had he gone back to school and transferred... if he had been eligible last year and came out u would be talking much differently.

That’s literally what they said about Patrick mahomes coming out.... can’t read defenses. Can’t anticipate, etc etc.

(01-31-2020, 03:59 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Scrub? Again he would go top 5 had he gone back to school and transferred... if he had been eligible last year and came out u would be talking much differently.

That’s literally what they said about Patrick mahomes coming out.... can’t read defenses. Can’t anticipate, etc etc.

(01-31-2020, 03:59 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Scrub? Again he would go top 5 had he gone back to school and transferred... if he had been eligible last year and came out u would be talking much differently.

That’s literally what they said about Patrick mahomes coming out.... can’t read defenses. Can’t anticipate, etc etc.

(01-31-2020, 05:38 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: But he didn't.  And that's the problem.  Are you really going to take a risk on a guy like that?  I wouldn't in a million years, especially when he wasn't that good this year.

He should have stayed in school one more year and transferred somewhere, but he didn't.  And to me, that's a major red flag.  He's had 2 average years and one great year.  That's not exactly a good track record.

(01-31-2020, 05:56 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Mahomes and Love are not on the same level coming out of college.
Mahomes had 11250 yards and 93 TDs in 32 games.
Love had only 8600 yards and 60 TDs in 38 games...in a non-Power 5 conference.

Love is more of a project and risk than Mahomes was.

And the whole point of "he would go Top 5" assumes that a player actually takes the next step. 
Love actually regressed in 2019 and wouldn't have gone ahead of Murray, Haskins, or Jones anyway if he could have gone in the 2019 draft.
Love is more akin to Josh Allen, as he's huge potential but not a refined product. While Allen has taken his team to the playoffs this year, he's still not a good passer.

(02-01-2020, 03:47 AM)Jpoore Wrote: But yet u want burrow whose had 1 great year and 1 bad year? Seems hypocritical no?

Love regressed bc his receivers couldn’t get open and had no offensive game plan to work with which has been well documented,,,, as far as the mahomes thing. Tell me which team had more talent? Which team had better coaching?

(02-01-2020, 03:47 AM)Jpoore Wrote: But yet u want burrow whose had 1 great year and 1 bad year? Seems hypocritical no?

Love regressed bc his receivers couldn’t get open and had no offensive game plan to work with which has been well documented,,,, as far as the mahomes thing. Tell me which team had more talent? Which team had better coaching?

(02-01-2020, 01:58 PM)Synric Wrote: Mike Sanford was just hired to be OC by Minnesota in the Big 10 which is arguably the second best conference in college football. So don't give me that bad coaching crap.

Sanford stated publicly they were going to keep the same scheme in place from Love's sophomore year but allow Love more control over it at the line. Love regressed because he was asked to read defenses, make checks, and go through his progressions. He struggled in those areas and also had issues with horizontal breaking routes.

(02-01-2020, 08:43 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Yeah and losing the 9 offensive starters had nothing to do with it right?

(02-01-2020, 08:43 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Yeah and losing the 9 offensive starters had nothing to do with it right?