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RE: How do we fix the Oline? - SHRacerX - 02-06-2022 (02-06-2022, 12:29 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: The #1 priority this off-season needs to be fixing the offensive line. Hopefully to be more consistent in the running game but above all else protect Burrow. This seems like it may be somewhat of a complicated issue when you factor in the fact we have several free agents we need to sign or find replacements. Also the fact we are drafting so late we may have a limited selection of players on the line available or ones that can contribute immediately anyway. So I was curious on some specific solutions to fix the issue? I am not willing to look past this season yet, but will engage in these debates in 8 days. I would like to see D'Ante Smith get some snaps at RG. Pretty big assignment, I know, but Carman and Adeniji have been so poor. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - Brimey - 02-06-2022 (02-06-2022, 01:14 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm just worried Linderbaum may be gone by our pick. No need to worry about it, because he's going to be long gone. That's a pipe dream unless he has some remarkably bad combine. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - Speedy Thomas - 02-06-2022 Approach fee agency as if there is no draft. The draft is basically a crap shoot. #1, half the first round guys either don't live up to expectations or are outright busts (see Ogbuehi, Cedric). #2, we don't know who's going to be there when we pick, especially where we will be drafting. #3, if you wait till the draft to fill immediate needs, we force ourselves to reach (see Price, William). #4, offensive line seems to be the hardest position to develop; we are in win now mode. On the other hand, you pretty much know what you're getting with free agents. And as others have pointed out, there should be a line of free agent linemen hoping to sign here. Priority order: re-sign Spain, free agent RT, possibly free agent C. As far as RG, the jury is out on Carman. He should be better next year. But if they've seen enough to feel that he's not the answer, by all means a free agent RG. We need to do all we can to upgrade at every position but LT. Then sit back and enjoy the draft. BPA all day. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - Soonerpeace - 02-06-2022 (02-06-2022, 01:00 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: There are some good articles on developing NFL Offensive Lineman. Bates if we resign him won’t be a friendly deal. He wants to get paid. They can off set some of Bates money with Wayne’s savings. Prince will make 4 or 5 million if we resign him. He’s under 2 million now. I’d resign Reiff if he’ll take what he made last year. I think we are okay at guard. Carman is going to be the biggest improvement next year. What you really need is 3 guards and 3 tackles. T Jonah/Reiff/ FA or Draftee G Prince/Carman/ C FA/ Hopkins Centers are cheaper in FA. But really whether you go center or tackle in FA then you go the other in the draft. But you need to improve it drastically. They’ve actually have an opportunity to get some great depth in the OL by adding 2 starters in FA and the draft. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - grampahol - 02-06-2022 I don't know they will find a day one starter on the Oline in the draft.. The draft is often a day one bust even with highly thought of prospects which is what they all are, prospects.. On the same hand, I don't know they won't find a day one starter. It's a crap shoot. I suspect they'll do both, sign a free agent or two and draft a few. If this oline was as terrible as most people think how are they making it to the superbowl? They've been both good and bad..I'd say they've been more inconsistent than just terrible.. I certainly haven't heard either Joe complain about them. If anything they give them much more praise than fans ever do.. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - fredtoast - 02-06-2022 Re-sign Spain. Trust that Carman or D'ante Smith can start at RG. Draft a RT in the 1st or 2nd round, but since we are not picking until 31-32 sign another good RT to a one-year deal to start while the rookie develops. Center I don't know. I think we have to roll with Hopkins, but I'd definitely like to draft another OC in the top 4 rounds for 2023. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - 007BengalsFan - 02-06-2022 A few of the better free agent OL for 2022 with info from PFF. Edit: added current Bengals players at each position for comparison Right Tackle: Trent Brown 489 snaps 1 sack 77.6 PFF 12 million a year Morgan Moses 1022 snaps 4 sacks 71.0 PFF 7.5 million a year Riley Reiff 711 snaps 4 sacks 67.3 PFF Isaiah Prince 384 snaps 3 sacks 58.0 PFF Right Guard: Mark Glowinski 843 snaps 1 sack 70.1 PFF Austin Corbett 1081 snaps 3 sacks 68.8 PFF 9.25 million a year Jackson Carman 462 snaps 0 sacks 56.3 PFF Hakeem Adeniji 555 snaps 3 sacks 48.3 PFF Center: Ben Jones 1160 snaps 1 sack 77.8 PFF 6.7 million a year Ryan Jensen 1151 snaps 2 sacks 70.3 PFF 10 million a year Trey Hopkins 928 snaps 4 sacks 51.4 PFF Left Guard: Conner Williams 948 snaps 1 sack 76.1 PFF 6.7 million a year (committed a bunch of penalties) Laken Tomlinson 1094 snaps 2 sacks 75.9 PFF 9 million a year James Daniels 1121 snaps 3 sacks 70.0 PFF 10 million a year (can also play center) Quinton Spain 995 snaps 5 sacks 72.3 PFF RE: How do we fix the Oline? - QueenCity - 02-06-2022 Time to move some draft capital and trade up for the Iowa Center.... fill out the rest of the O-Line through FA RE: How do we fix the Oline? - JWW1971 - 02-06-2022 We need to see who we get in FA before we think about the draft. The good thing is that a lot of O-Line guys will be looking at our team now and think they will be challenging and winning for a while with the team RE: How do we fix the Oline? - BurrowTheGoat - 02-07-2022 (02-06-2022, 01:14 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm just worried Linderbaum may be gone by our pick.Our first and third should be enough to move us up to pick 22 or so. Might be just the right spot to land him. RE: How do we fix the Oline? - Sled21 - 02-07-2022 (02-06-2022, 02:06 PM)Brimey Wrote: No need to worry about it, because he's going to be long gone. That's a pipe dream unless he has some remarkably bad combine. And that's fine by me, I don't really want an undersized center. And I know, here come the "but he was a wrestler and has good technique and understands leverage" posts. But you know who else has good technique and understands leverage???? Most starting Defensive Tackles. When it comes down to good technique vs. good technique, mass is going to help with the win. |