(04-28-2022, 08:09 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: guilty until proven innocent, huh? you seem like an emotional reactionary person

(04-28-2022, 08:13 PM)Au165 Wrote: I tend to give people with strong feelings on this leeway because they have been handled pretty awfully throughout history. The issue is usually there are two people there and each can have different ideas of what happened. In each persons mind their version can be true without making the other person a liar because there can be a lot of nuance to the situation.

(04-28-2022, 08:20 PM)Wyche Wrote: Seems sketchy, but if it's true, I'd part ways.

(04-28-2022, 08:09 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: guilty until proven innocent, huh? you seem like an emotional reactionary person

(04-28-2022, 08:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: On the surface, it does seem sketchy.  However, in the Southeastern States people love their college football programs more than many other things in life.  I could envision a situation where, like in the "good ole' boy network", everything possible that could be done to keep this story quiet and under wraps, very well could have went down in the name of not bringing shame to the University, and more importantly, "the program".  

Zac Taylor opens press conference: “First off, I am aware there is a story about Jackson Carman today. I don’t have any comment on that.”

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) April 29, 2022

(04-28-2022, 09:01 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Really sickening to hear these stories but there are reasons to withhold trashing Carman too quickly.

If she is telling the truth then she got a lot of VERY bad advice. First: don’t ask the guy who raped you for a ride home. Get the hell out of there and someplace public and call for a ride from someone who hasn’t just raped you. 2nd: I understand a victim not wanting to file a report right away, but if you are a parent and your child tells you they were raped you don’t leave it up to them. You get them to a doctor and file a report.

It’s hard enough to prove rape, but you really need to go to the police right away to have a good shot at getting a conviction. Not always but time is of the essence in these situations.

All of that said, we live in an innocent until proven guilty country thankfully. The case was investigated and closed with no charges filed. It’s also worth noting she waited until his career was established and he was about to cash in before coming forward. I believe they also said she filed the report at age 17 (did not wait until she was a legal adult which would leave her at more risk if filing a false report). The fact that they reviewed her phone records and didn’t proceed further says something. Especially after she had screenshots of some of the convo but not the all of it, and said the rest would be more damning and once police saw the full records they dropped the case. Her mom also told her she can’t see him anymore even if she doesn’t file a report? That part of the story makes no sense. That’s not something you even need to say. Oh it’s ok if we don’t call the police but you are not allowed to hang out with your rapist again?! Doesn’t add up.

I certainly don’t want a rapist on our team but I also don’t want to see a young man’s life ruined by false accusations. It doesn’t sound like anything will come of this so I would not be in favor of cutting him unless more evidence comes out.

(04-28-2022, 07:57 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: I’m just curious as to why we didn’t see this article last year?? Just doesn’t make sense. Honestly, I need more information. Coaches will be asked about it soon, so that’ll be where I can form a better opinion.

(04-28-2022, 08:03 PM)ATOTR Wrote: Our fans dismissing this are losers

If this story came out about a Steelers or brown or raven, you’d be
Laughing and celebrating and wanting them to disown.

But since it’s a bungle, all of a sudden the girl is probably a liar.  

What a bunch of  hypocrites

(04-28-2022, 08:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: On the surface, it does seem sketchy.  However, in the Southeastern States people love their college football programs more than many other things in life.  I could envision a situation where, like in the "good ole' boy network", everything possible that could be done to keep this story quiet and under wraps, very well could have went down in the name of not bringing shame to the University, and more importantly, "the program".  

(04-28-2022, 09:01 PM)JaggedJimmyJay Wrote: I don't care how I "seem". The justice system has proven for decades upon decades that it is incapable of reliably determining guilt in rape cases. We're forced to interpret credibility on our own, and the reports of "Jane Doe" are just about impossible for me to look past.

(04-28-2022, 08:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: On the surface, it does seem sketchy.  However, in the Southeastern States people love their college football programs more than many other things in life.  I could envision a situation where, like in the "good ole' boy network", everything possible that could be done to keep this story quiet and under wraps, very well could have went down in the name of not bringing shame to the University, and more importantly, "the program".