(01-03-2024, 01:27 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: I doubt we see Chase and Tee.

I am afraid we have seen the last of Tee. 

(01-02-2024, 07:17 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: I hear you Kev, and I'm there with you.  I fully appreciate the logic and reason of those wanting a loss to improve our draft position because it does makes sense.  But, I never much saw fandom being about logic and reason, not for me at least, so I can't root for a loss, and especially a loss to the Browns.

(01-03-2024, 01:27 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: I doubt we see Chase and Tee.

I am afraid we have seen the last of Tee. 

(01-05-2024, 12:42 PM)Wyche Wrote: Chase says he's playing. He's adamant about it. Unless the staff says no, I think he plays. 

(01-05-2024, 12:48 PM)Nately120 Wrote: He needs to get some revenge for that "we lost to some elves" game.  What a fun way to bookend this season, eh?

(01-05-2024, 12:52 PM)Wyche Wrote: Lmao, hadn't considered that!

(01-05-2024, 01:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You can always count on me to keep track of the stats that really matter.

(01-03-2024, 05:19 PM)casear2727 Wrote: It is a statistical fact that players drafted in higher slots have better careers overall.  Sure there will be outliers, but I would have thought that EVERY fan would know this?

I am surely not alone in remembering Frank Ragnow, awesome center for years, being taken immediately before us by the Lions. We settled on Billy Price, if that doesn't convince anyone, nothing will. 

(01-03-2024, 09:22 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: I would rather keep Tee. Chase is a speedster, but like Green, with time or an injury, they get slower and easily covered by the D. Tee is super tall and has good speed and athletism... Chase rn is at his prime though, so
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(01-03-2024, 05:19 PM)casear2727 Wrote: It is a statistical fact that players drafted in higher slots have better careers overall.  Sure there will be outliers, but I would have thought that EVERY fan would know this?

I am surely not alone in remembering Frank Ragnow, awesome center for years, being taken immediately before us by the Lions. We settled on Billy Price, if that doesn't convince anyone, nothing will. 

(01-05-2024, 11:47 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Ive never seen any real study that gives a real measurable difference of moving    2 to 3 placements around middle of draft,  and   play the game to win that is what coache's and players do for a living
 I love revisionst history. Look back at draft projections in 2018 and  you will find that price, ragnow and even  Wynn from Georgia were picked by different draft sites as top center ,  bengals wanted ragnow but stated price was right there as a happy 2nd choose. Anyone that says different does not remember the draft projections then.

(01-03-2024, 09:22 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: I would rather keep Tee. Chase is a speedster, but like Green, with time or an injury, they get slower and easily covered by the D. Tee is super tall and has good speed and athletism... Chase rn is at his prime though, so
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(01-05-2024, 08:38 PM)casear2727 Wrote: This isnt correct.  Tee's lack of speed and athleticism are what pushed him into the 2nd round.  People comparing him to AJ Brown on Twitter are sorely mistaken when it comes to elite physical attributes.  

(01-06-2024, 12:17 AM)casear2727 Wrote: The fact that you havent seen any studies is not a quality rebuttal, you often miss on things you haven't seen.   Besides, what random "draft experts" have to say pre-draft doesnt really matter, see Darnell Washington last season.  Also, many mix up their ratings on purpose in order to fill content and attract visitors.

The information is not hard to find nor is it difficult to understand.  There is a reason teams try to trade up for a potentially better prospect.   If it was as random as you and Nepa suggest then it really wouldnt be that big of a deal.  

Im not really interested in debating such a common sense topic.

(01-06-2024, 06:10 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: So where is your stats that back up your point that there is major difference between few spots mid draft.. you cherry pick Price as the holy grail i guess... and since there was a split on top center coming out in that draft some teams might have taken Price over Ragnow in that position, it show more a point of not so much where you pick in the draft but picking the right position players in the draft. Great example in our history is picking Ross two spots in front of Mahomes, so here we had the higher pick and picked wrong

(01-06-2024, 06:10 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: So where is your stats that back up your point that there is major difference between few spots mid draft.. you cherry pick Price as the holy grail i guess... and since there was a split on top center coming out in that draft some teams might have taken Price over Ragnow in that position, it show more a point of not so much where you pick in the draft but picking the right position players in the draft. Great example in our history is picking Ross two spots in front of Mahomes, so here we had the higher pick and picked wrong

When the criteria is changed from All-Pros to Pro Bowlers, the results are still weighted heavily towards the first two days of the draft. Of the 32 players that went on to make a Pro Bowl, more than half (18) were first-round picks. The second day of the draft accounted for nearly a third of the Pro Bowlers with 5 each from the second and third rounds. The third day of the draft, rounds 4-7, produced just 4 Pro Bowlers in total.


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(01-07-2024, 05:21 AM)kevin Wrote: As this post has turned into Draft Section, I repeat BEAT BROWNS.

I want to see Bengals WIN this game.   I'm tired of Bengals losing so much to the Browns last few years.

I want to see Browning lead this team to one more win and finish with a winning record.  I want to see big days by Mixon, Chase and Chase and Higgins and Boyd. Big days by Hendickson and Defense and McPherson

When this game is over, let the Bengal Fans in THE JUNGLE go home with a WIN.  Let the Bengals players walk off the field with some PRIDE with a WIN.  Instead of Bengals once again watching Browns walk of the field celebrating beating our Bengals.

To those who say out of the play-offs and nothing to play for.  This is a Home game in Cincinnati against Cleveland.  You forget playing for Pride and Self Respect.  The Bengals have lost way too many games to the Browns last few years.  Beat Cleveland in Cincinnati and finish with a WIN and a WIINING RECORD...For the Players, but also for the Season Ticket Holding Bengals Fans in THE JUNGLE.  

Also avoid  the AFC North Sweep...A loss to Cleveland means the Bengals didn't win a division game.

Over the years there have been times Ohio State or Michigan had bad seasons, but they redeemed themselves by winning the Ohio State / Michigan game.  So let The Bengals win this Battle of Ohio in Cincinnati to finish the season with some pride.

There is no pride in tanking to move up in draft from 9 wins to 8 wins.  That is weak.  No pride in that.  When Raiders play long time rivals Chiefs, they play them tough. Tanking for the draft is never considered.  Cincinnati vs Cleveland is a rival game.  BEAT BROWNS

At games end, I want to see Browning walk off the field in victory, having won  4 games and not a bad job in replacing Burrow.

No real Bengals Fan wants to see Cleveland celebrating another win over our Bengals.

Now people, Browning was winning until he had to play at Pittsburgh and at Kansas City, 2 tough road games always. Do not end on a losing streak. Finish with a Win in THE JUNGLE.



GO BENGALS....BEAT CLEVELAND....WE DON'T LIVE IN CLEVELAND-Sam Wyche

I really want this WIN.  I didn't like Bengals chances at Kansas City, although Bengals played Chiefs tough.  My hope was come back to Cincinnati and BEAT CLEVELAND.   I want this WIN.