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RE: PFF Giants game - J24 - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 06:13 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Jackson is tagged with 4 total pressures on just 30 defensive snaps the past two games.
Probably not quite THAT sustainable, but he's played well in his limited snaps thus far.

I am curious to know how the Bengals plan to use Jenkins and Jackson in 2025 and beyond once Hill (and Rankins) will no longer be a Bengal.

Is Jenkins going to rotate with Jackson long-term, or is the plan for them to play next to each other on significant snaps?
That will heavily impact the draft plans in the next year or two.

Good Question? I hope they see both as rotation pieces going foward. Not sure either are players you can build a defense line around quite yet.

RE: PFF Giants game - SunsetBengal - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 06:24 PM)J24 Wrote: Good Question? I hope they see both as rotation pieces going foward. Not sure either are players you can build a defense line around yet.

And many of us mentioned that prior to the season. Wts, now that they are moving past injuries, they are looking like possibly reliable rotational pieces for the DL. I still think that they should plan on re-signing BJ Hill to another 1-2 year deal, just for insurance.

RE: PFF Giants game - NUGDUKWE - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 06:13 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Jackson is tagged with 4 total pressures on just 30 defensive snaps the past two games.
Probably not quite THAT sustainable, but he's played well in his limited snaps thus far.

I am curious to know how the Bengals plan to use Jenkins and Jackson in 2025 and beyond once Hill (and Rankins) will no longer be a Bengal.

Is Jenkins going to rotate with Jackson long-term, or is the plan for them to play next to each other on significant snaps?
That will heavily impact the draft plans in the next year or two.

 


Guessing he'll never really be a pass rusher. But hopefully he can be a solid rotational piece.

RE: PFF Giants game - coachmcneil71 - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 04:58 PM)Whatever Wrote: Good to see Mims among the Top 5 on O.

Not poo-pooing your post, but he had a rough patch in the 2nd and early 3rd quarters. He managed to right the ship and the play calling changed a bit so that helped as well. 
He played like a rook, but he played like a good rook and adjusted on the fly, which was nice to see. Even without Thibodeaux the Giants have a good pass rush.

RE: PFF Giants game - SunsetBengal - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 06:59 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote:  


Guessing he'll never really be a pass rusher. But hopefully he can be a solid rotational piece.

Most NTs aren't considered "pass rushers", but more pass rush enablers as they eat up two blockers leaving one one one for the other 3 DL.

RE: PFF Giants game - J24 - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 06:28 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: And many of us mentioned that prior to the season. Wts, now that they are moving past injuries, they are looking like possibly reliable rotational pieces for the DL. I still think that they should plan on re-signing BJ Hill to another 1-2 year deal, just for insurance.

If they put money into the DT position it will probably be on a younger player than Hill. I could see us adding 3 to 5 new free agents to the defense next season.

RE: PFF Giants game - J24 - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 07:40 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Most NTs aren't considered "pass rushers", but more pass rush enablers as they eat up two blockers leaving one one one for the other 3 DL.

You're right,  but Jackson looks like he has some pass rushing juice for a NT.

RE: PFF Giants game - SunsetBengal - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 08:21 PM)J24 Wrote: If they put money into the DT position it will probably be on a younger player than Hill. I could see us adding 3 to 5 new free agents to the defense next season.

Hill is now in his physical prime. Why would you roll the dice on a guy unknown commodity? (Let's be real, the Bengals aren't going to pay for the best young DT on the open market in FA, so their best bet is to re-sign Hill)

RE: PFF Giants game - ochocincos - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 08:22 PM)J24 Wrote: You're right,  but Jackson looks like he has some pass rushing juice for a NT.

I was on record in the offseason saying Jackson reminded me a lot of DJ Reader when he was coming out of college.
Let's see if he proves me right.

RE: PFF Giants game - J24 - 10-14-2024

(10-14-2024, 08:25 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Hill is now in his physical prime. Why would you roll the dice on a guy unknown commodity? (Let's be real, the Bengals aren't going to pay for the best young DT on the open market in FA, so their best bet is to re-sign Hill)

That's a losers  mentality!

RE: PFF Giants game - bfine32 - 10-14-2024

I hope Mckinnley works out. My main reason is so folks around here will quit putting DJ Reader in Canton.

RE: PFF Giants game - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 10-15-2024

YTD Snaps & PFF grades:

Offense: 364 snaps
QB1: Burrow: 364, 86.6
RB1: Moss: 240, 60.7
WR1: Chase: 324, 81.4
WR2: Higgins: 192, 82.3
WR3: Iosivas: 287, 59.4
TE1: D. Sample: 178, 44.3
LT1: O. Brown Jr.: 364, 66.4
LG1: Volson: 364, 65.2
C1: Karras: 364, 64.8
RG1: Cappa: 364, 64.5
RT2: Mims: 206, 56.5
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TE2: All: 164, 62.2
TE3: Gesicki: 149, 62.1
RT1: T. Brown: 139, 65.2 (IR)
RB2: C. Brown: 127, 75.3
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WR4: Irwin: 71, 47.4
OG3/OT4: Ford: 46, 40.7
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WR5: Burton: 22, 68.3
WR6: Jones: 22, 52.3
TE4: Hudson: 13, 43.7
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OG4/OT5: Kirkland: 3, 49.3 (IR)
DE/FB: Hubbard: 1, Not rated

RE: PFF Giants game - Nicomo Cosca - 10-15-2024

Anyone have the full screenshots from the Giants game? I’m curious how CTB graded out.

RE: PFF Giants game - Truck_1_0_1_ - 10-15-2024

(10-14-2024, 06:00 PM)Nepa Wrote: To be honest, the "ineligible player downfield" call on the Giants was a big call. That was a 56-yard gain by Slayton wiped out that might have changed the game. And the ineligible player wasn't involved in any way, just thought it might be a run on the RPO.  

Doesn't matter, he was literally like 7 yards downfield when the pass was thrown lol, unless a running play, OL can't be downfield, period.

That's been a rule for decades.

RE: PFF Giants game - J24 - 10-15-2024

(Yesterday, 12:11 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Anyone have the full screenshots from the Giants game? I’m curious how CTB graded out.

 overall     run.      Coverage.   Tackle 
59.2.         66.9.    57.3.             80.6

RE: PFF Giants game - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 10-15-2024

YTD Snaps & PFF:

Defense: 416 snaps
RDE: Hendrickson: 264, 69.3
DT/NT1: BJ Hill: 177, 72.8
DT2: Rankins: 116, 56.0
LDE: Hubbard: 288, 57.3
LB1: Wilson: 416, 76.6
LB2: Pratt: 398, 66.6
CB1: Taylor-Britt: 377, 58.0
CB4: Turner: 208, 65.4
CB3: Hilton: 226, 65.3
SS1: Bell: 394, 59.2
FS1: Stone: 410, 41.1
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CB2: D. Hill: 264, 68.2 (IR)
DE4: Ossai: 188, 53.0
DT7: Carter: 151, 44.3 (with LV, Cincy stats)
DT5: Tufele: 147, 44.7
DT3: Jenkins: 131, 53.4
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LB3: Davis-Gaither: 83, 75.6
DT6: Guy: 76, 57.9
DE3: Murphy: 66, 54.4
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CB6: J. Davis: 49, 50.4 (PS)
DE5: Johnson: 34, 58.9
DT/NT2: Jackson: 30, 55.1
CB5: Newton: 27, 64.5
S3: Battle: 24, 50.2
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DE6: Henry: 11/41, 63.3/57.4 (with Dallas, Cincy/total)
S4: Anthony: 10, 64.2
LB4: Bachie: 7, 40.5
LB5: Njongmeta: 4, 52.1
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RE: PFF Giants game - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 10-15-2024

Just for gits & shiggles:

RB: Mixon: 114, 71.6
WR3: Boyd: 213, 59.2
RT: Williams: 22, 68.8 (IR)
DT: Reader: 110, 78.1
S: Bates: 406, 67.6

RE: PFF Giants game - Nicomo Cosca - 10-15-2024

(Yesterday, 12:40 AM)J24 Wrote:  overall     run.      Coverage.   Tackle 
59.2.         66.9.    57.3.             80.6

Thanks. That’s disappointing. I thought he played better than that.

RE: PFF Giants game - WeezyBengal - 10-15-2024

(10-14-2024, 04:23 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Im still not sure how he has so much support from this board

No one here thinks Volson is a superstar. He also isn't as bad as you make him out to be. 

He's an average guard, which is good enough. There currently isn't a better option on the roster. He's fine. 

RE: PFF Giants game - WeezyBengal - 10-15-2024

(10-14-2024, 05:33 PM)CJD Wrote: OBJ got toasted by Burns a few times. It was ugly!

He isn't and wont be the only one this season. Dude is one of the best players in the league. Maybe we should have signed him this offseason?