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RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - J24 - 02-04-2025

Who says no?
Commanders- Trey Hendrickson DE
Bengals- Myles Garrett + Washington 2nd rd
Browns- Bengals 1st(17th), Washington 1st (29th), Bengals 3rd(79th), and Kris Jenkins DT Bengals

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - BFritz21 - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 02:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: There is one in Around the NFL

There's also a Myles Thread in AFC North forum 
Don't see why it wouldn't be here though if it's Bengals-related
(02-04-2025, 03:02 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Same as not existing for 90% of the board users.   Ninja

Exactly.

I realize not every free agent or trade partner should be here, but these seem major.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 05:24 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Feasibly, they should be able to afford a WR like Slayton and Kyle Pitts for the same or less as Tee Higgins, and maybe even have a few $$ left to throw toward a Guard.

That sounds fantastic. Bring in Josh Sweat an Edge in FA and a Guard like James Daniels or Trey Smith and boom...

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - SunsetBengal - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 08:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That sounds fantastic. Bring in Josh Sweat an Edge in FA and a Guard like James Daniels or Trey Smith and boom...

Trey Smith would be an incredible signing, but Will Fries or Tevin Jenkins would be great upgrades as well.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 08:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Trey Smith would be an incredible signing, but Will Fries or Tevin Jenkins would be great upgrades as well.

That is what is nice for us this FA, lots of good Guards to be had. Nice on Fries and Tevin.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - BFritz21 - 02-04-2025

None of the panel members mentioned Kupp as a possibility for us, but Tony Reali did.

I still think he'd be perfect for us and, this late in his career, he's going to want a quarterback that can put the ball where it needs to be (I know all receivers want that, but I just mean that he's going to want that more in his career now), as well as potential to win at least one more Super Bowl.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - FormerlyBengalRugby - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 06:18 PM)J24 Wrote: Who says no?
Commanders- Trey Hendrickson DE
Bengals- Myles Garrett + Washington 2nd rd
Browns- Bengals 1st(17th), Washington 1st (29th), Bengals 3rd(79th), and  Kris Jenkins DT Bengals

Bengals would be getting fleeced in that deal and not moving ahead.

Garrett is equal or less than Trey, but they are giving up a promising 2nd round pick, and future picks? I get that Garrett e is younger, but also having foot issues, which is never good for a big man.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - SunsetBengal - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 06:18 PM)J24 Wrote: Who says no?
Commanders- Trey Hendrickson DE
Bengals- Myles Garrett + Washington 2nd rd
Browns- Bengals 1st(17th), Washington 1st (29th), Bengals 3rd(79th), and  Kris Jenkins DT Bengals

Losing important draft picks in a year when they only have 6 to begin with, and throwing in a promising prospect? No, I cannot get on board with that idea. The Bengals defense is more than one player away from being great, and you're suggesting trading a second round pick after a promising rookie year??

It takes a lot more than sacks to compose a strong defense. But that's definitely a Mike Brown type of move, go big on the perimeter players and stay soft in the middle...

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - Luvnit2 - 02-04-2025

Did anyone look at contracts for Garett and Kupp. Browns will never trade Garett. He has has a cap hit of 1.3 million in 2025 with a roster bonus of 18.5 million and 1.3 million and roster bonus of 19 million in 2026. Cleveland would have to eat a ton of dead cap money.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap/_/year/2025
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total

Kupp is the opposite issue. He has a cap hit of 12.5 million in 2025 + 7.5 million roster bonus and then 15 million + 5 million roster bonus in 2026. LA will have to eat some of Kupp's salary and even then, since it is a contract dump, likely only gets a 5th or 6th round pick.

Kupp - 2025 = 20 million and 2026 = 20 million cap hit.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total_top51

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/cap/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - 007BengalsFan - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 06:18 PM)J24 Wrote: Who says no?
Commanders- Trey Hendrickson DE
Bengals- Myles Garrett + Washington 2nd rd
Browns- Bengals 1st(17th), Washington 1st (29th), Bengals 3rd(79th), and  Kris Jenkins DT Bengals

The Bengals lose their 1st round draft pick, their 3rd round draft pick, Trey Hendrickson and Kris Jenkins to pick up Garrett and a late 2nd round pick.  That is one of the worst suggested trades I have ever read on this forum

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - J24 - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 09:08 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Bengals would be getting fleeced in that deal and not moving ahead.

Garrett is equal or less than Trey, but they are giving up a promising 2nd round pick, and future picks? I get that Garrett e is younger, but also having foot issues, which is never good for a big man.
So the Bengals say no?

(02-04-2025, 09:21 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Losing important draft picks in a year when they only have 6 to begin with, and throwing in a promising prospect? No, I cannot get on board with that idea. The Bengals defense is more than one player away from being great, and you're suggesting trading a second round pick after a promising rookie year??

It takes a lot more than sacks to compose a strong defense. But that's definitely a Mike Brown type of move, go big on the perimeter players and stay soft in the middle...
So the Bengals say no?
(02-04-2025, 09:54 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: The Bengals lose their 1st round draft pick, their 3rd round draft pick, Trey Hendrickson and Kris Jenkins to pick up Garrett and a late 2nd round pick.  That is one of the worst suggested trades I have ever read on this forum
So the Bengals say no?

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RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - SunsetBengal - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 10:54 PM)J24 Wrote: So the Bengals say no?

So the Bengals say no?
So the Bengals say no?

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Absolutely no to that costly proposal.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - J24 - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 10:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Absolutely no to that costly proposal.
Yeah, I wouldn't do the deal either but it flls the parameters of what the Browns want in a potential deal. Personally, I would just take the commanders first and second rd picks. Then sign a Chase Young + Baron Browning to fill Trey shoes.

I will say this though, Garrett is wildly considered the best all around defensive player in football in both the pass rush & run defense department. So saying he only gives you sacks is a bit strange! Isn't it?

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - Clark W Griswold - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 10:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Absolutely no to that costly proposal.

Washington also is a big NO on that deal. They give up their first and second round picks for Hendrickson? I love Trey but no way they give that up for a 30 year old Trey.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - SunsetBengal - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 11:20 PM)J24 Wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't do the deal either but it flls the parameters of what the Browns want in a potential deal. Personally, I would just take the commanders first and second rd picks. Then sign a Chase Young + Baron Browning to fill Trey shoes.

I will say this though, Garrett is wildly considered the best all around defensive player in football in both the pass rush & run defense department. So saying he only gives you sacks is a bit strange! Isn't it?

Don't forget that Cleveland has pretty much had a class A defense for most of his career. His numbers weren't all because of just his presence, but by the fact that 10 other teammates were all doing their job well at the same time. We see what "one hero" looks like with Trey this year, need more Indians, not a different Chief.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - J24 - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 11:25 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: Washington also is a big NO on that deal. They give up their first and second round picks for Hendrickson?  I love Trey but no way they give that up for a 30 year old Trey.

The NFL Sack leader isn't worth a First and Second?

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - 007BengalsFan - 02-04-2025

(02-04-2025, 10:54 PM)J24 Wrote: So the Bengals say no?

I believe the Bengals would say no.  As much as I would love to have Garrett, the cost would be too high.  I would take Garrett over Hendrickson.  I would take Garrett over any other DE with the exception of Hutchinson who I think has the best future.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - J24 - 02-05-2025

(02-04-2025, 11:42 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I believe the Bengals would say no.  As much as I would love to have Garrett, the cost would be too high.  I would take Garrett over Hendrickson.  I would take Garrett over any other DE with the exception of Hutchinson who I think has the best future.

Fair and I agree with your assessment.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - Whatever - 02-05-2025

(02-04-2025, 08:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Trey Smith would be an incredible signing, but Will Fries or Tevin Jenkins would be great upgrades as well.

So would a rusted turnstile...just saying.

RE: Tee Higgins Cooper Kupp and Myles Garrett - pulses - 02-05-2025

(02-04-2025, 08:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Trey Smith would be an incredible signing, but Will Fries or Tevin Jenkins would be great upgrades as well.

I like Will Fries a lot.