(11-14-2023, 11:38 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: In no way am I a ZT play calling "defender", but I think it's important to look at the context in which each game is called.

Against the Texans, we were down a TON of offensive personel. Chase was banged up and limited, no Higgins, Chase Brown, Charlie Jones, Yoshi missed 3/4 of the game. Callahan came out and said they didn't move Chase around much because of the lack of prep and practice time throughout the week.

Also, people want to complain about how we don't throw the ball "vertically" down the field. That's more on recievers getting open and Burrow finding them and pulling the trigger than it is on the "play calling".

My ONE criticism of Burrow is that his play style has become a bit conservative over the years. He doesn't push the ball until he needs to. Some of this is the by product of him having a good defense and him trusting it. You saw it against the Titans. After we got the initial lead he was super convservative and actually passed up taking chances on pretty wide open explosive plays to dump it off to the flat. In the second half he started pushing the ball because he needed to.

Again, people complain about "play calling" but you really do need to watch the film and understand the context of each game and play to understand just what is exactly going on.

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(11-16-2023, 12:38 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: You can perhaps see Burrow's lack of aggression in the below GIF. This is from the first drive, so this ended up not mattering but Joe misses a wide open Yoshi running down the field. The defense shows a two high look and I think Burrow moves of Yoshi too early. Andrei is at the very bottom of the screen. This is a well drawn up play, and a good call. Burrow just misses.

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(11-16-2023, 12:45 PM)Synric Wrote: I don't know if Yoshi is actually part of the progression on that play. Because of the formation and never trying to work back toward the sideline it kinda looks like he's running a clear out route trying to get the safety to turn his hips and open up Boyd for the corner route. Burrow is reading whe safety when comes down so he goes to the underneath. 

Don't get me wrong Burrow absolutely could have went outside of structure and hit Yoshi if he had seen how badly the corner played it. He's made that read and  throw before. 

(11-16-2023, 12:52 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Okay, that's interesting. I was figuring Burrow would be reading from high to low, starting with Yoshi --> Boyd --> Flat/Dump-off. 

(11-16-2023, 01:03 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Until Yoshi runs correct routes Burrow isnt going to look his way.   He gave him a chance early in the game and Yoshi made the wrong decision.  We know he has run  the wrong routes previously.  Hopefully Yoshi can get this aspect correct and we can see more from him than just scramble drills.

(11-16-2023, 12:52 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Okay, that's interesting. I was figuring Burrow would be reading from high to low, starting with Yoshi --> Boyd --> Flat/Dump-off. 

(11-16-2023, 12:45 PM)Synric Wrote: I don't know if Yoshi is actually part of the progression on that play. Because of the formation and never trying to work back toward the sideline it kinda looks like he's running a clear out route trying to get the safety to turn his hips and open up Boyd for the corner route. Burrow is reading the safety when he comes down Joe goes to the underneath. 

Don't get me wrong Burrow absolutely could have went outside of structure and hit Yoshi if he had seen how badly the corner played it. He's made that read and  throw before. 

(11-28-2023, 01:18 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: We won’t know but Joe has neglected the TE’s slightly. He’s probably neglecting Yoshi. And that’s not unusual until you prove yourself. So this isn’t some high criticism. Joey B was like this at LSU. All QB’s have their favorites.

(11-16-2023, 12:45 PM)Synric Wrote: I don't know if Yoshi is actually part of the progression on that play. Because of the formation and never trying to work back toward the sideline it kinda looks like he's running a clear out route trying to get the safety to turn his hips and open up Boyd for the corner route. Burrow is reading the safety when he comes down Joe goes to the underneath. 

Don't get me wrong Burrow absolutely could have went outside of structure and hit Yoshi if he had seen how badly the corner played it. He's made that read and  throw before. 

(11-28-2023, 01:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: This season? Because they suck. He made the last two a lot of money.

(11-28-2023, 02:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Browning only threw the ball 26 times, Burrow has only thrown less than that 3 times in his career and none since 2021. We didn't ask Browning to do what we ask Burrow to do.

(11-28-2023, 03:13 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Lol what was the % of the time we threw though? You're just looking at the total numbers when we had am inept offense that couldn't stay on the field.

(11-28-2023, 06:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The ratio was a little over 2 to 1. I've seen many folks bring up "only ran 11 times" but didn't bring up we only had around 37 total offensive snaps. 

(11-28-2023, 03:13 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Lol what was the % of the time we threw though? You're just looking at the total numbers when we had am inept offense that couldn't stay on the field.

(11-28-2023, 07:09 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Yup, everything was bad. Too bad Zac couldn't figure out an offense that wasn't very QB reliant since we have a backup 

(11-29-2023, 03:44 PM)Bing Ghuls Wrote: Why do QBs get paid so much money if coaches can just come up with schemes to win without them?