(05-06-2017, 09:20 PM)Bengalsrob Wrote: It's a shame we have to ask this question but we do. Think about it, if we were most ANY other team would we have to ask? We shouldn't have to ask here either, but the question makes all the sense in the world, unfortunately.

(05-07-2017, 05:07 AM)Joelist Wrote:  Also our usual nonsense of our first and second rounders riding the pine because of some mythological notion about the need to practice well is not going to fly. you draft in these rounds for starters not backups. 

(05-06-2017, 10:44 PM)jeremydc Wrote: Nothing in our recent past shows that we will use ROSS/MIXON 'plenty'

Unless there is an injury and/or Gio isn't ready to go, expect to see them around 20-30% of the snaps

(05-06-2017, 11:46 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: He's recovering from shoulder surgery.

"On February 10, 2017, it was revealed that Ross was diagnosed with a torn labrum in his shoulder. He injured his shoulder earlier during the 2016 season, and re-aggravated it on December 31 in a loss against Alabama. The injury required surgery, but Ross decided to put it on hold until after the NFL Scouting Combine and pro day workouts" - from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ross_(American_football)

(05-06-2017, 06:54 PM)Joelist Wrote: I think we all agree that our offense got a big infusion of speed in the draft. However, as always with Marvin you wind up wondering if we'll actually see that speed put out on the field and used right away.

For instance, will we put Ross out there right away and draw up plays where he can use his speed to burn a defense? Or will we see LaFell out there as the coaches claim Ross needs to "absorb the entire offense"?

And will we see Mixon out there and running plays designed to let him burn the defense with his jets? Or are we going to see Hill out there running for 2 and a cloud of dust while we get claims from the coaches that he needs to show in practice he knows the offense?

(05-07-2017, 05:07 AM)Joelist Wrote: The problem is that if Ross and Mixon are not on the field then the speed they bring does not matter. Also our usual nonsense of our first and second rounders riding the pine because of some mythological notion about the need to practice well is not going to fly. you draft in these rounds for starters not backups. 

By the way all the reports on Ross say he is guaranteed ready for the season so the injury is not an excuse.

(05-08-2017, 07:47 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Ok.lets try to put some fact behind the statement

2016- 1st rounder-  Jackson hurt out for the year, so can't judge
           2nd rounder-  Boyd- saw plenty of playing time

2015-  1st rounder- Cedric- hurt but played end of year some then last year saw a lot but struggled and people complained he played too much... 2nd round- Fisher- saw some playing time 1st year, and started later in year 2nd year. 

2014-  1st rounder- Dennard- i believe was hurt most of rookie year but was stuck behind the starters
           2nd rounder-  Hill-  great rookie year
2013- 1st- Eifert- played as much as he could with injuries
          2nd - Gio-  played plenty
2012- 1st- Dre- did not start and was hurt most of year i believe
          2nd- Zeitler- started all year
2011-  AJ and Dalton- enough said

So please tell me where as a whole  the Bengals have been sitting their 1/2 picks over the last six years.. Now we might not agree with some of the picks and how they have turned out but to say they just ride the wood is just not really backed up with facts.

(05-06-2017, 09:41 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: Marvin has publicly said more than once that a player's game time depends on how well he practices. I'd be surprised if that changes.

(05-08-2017, 10:37 PM)Derrick Wrote: Can you imagine the uproar on these boards? If:
* Ogeebogee is a flop
* Fisher is still not ready
* Bodine is Bodine
* Rookies ride the bench for first half of 2017
WOW!

Quote:By the way all the reports on Ross say he is guaranteed ready for the season so the injury is not an excuse.

(05-08-2017, 10:37 PM)Derrick Wrote: Can you imagine the uproar on these boards? If:
* Ogeebogee is a flop
* Fisher is still not ready
* Bodine is Bodine
* Rookies ride the bench for first half of 2017
WOW!

(05-09-2017, 12:47 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Can you imagine the Crow eating if

Cedric is a hit
Fisher is steady and ready
Bodine bulls them over
Rookies ride us to a playoff win..

WHO DEY 

(05-09-2017, 09:41 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Haters never eat crow.  If we are succesful this season they will just whine about how long it took.  

(05-09-2017, 09:41 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Haters never eat crow.  If we are succesful this season they will just whine about how long it took.  

(05-09-2017, 10:42 AM)depthchart Wrote: It is when people have used "Absolute" terms to describe the future that they will deserve to eat Crow if the Bengals do win in the Playoffs.

For example; People will say "No way" Mike and Marvin can win a Playoff game.  -or-

As long as Marvin is here we will "Never" win a Playoff game.  -or-

The past 26 years are proof that Mike and Marvin are "incapable" of winning a Playoff game. -or-

Marvin is 0 and 7 in Playoff games so his teams "always choke" in the Playoffs and he is "unable" to coach well enough in the Playoffs to win.

** They use the PAST to make Absolute statements about the Future.

*** Many can give the Raiders a Pass for losing in the Playoffs last year after their Starting QB went out with injury but Marvin's best two teams lost their Starting QBs (Palmer/Dalton) and they state that losing them made "no difference" in the outcome. (Losing Derek Carr mattered for the Raiders but us losing Palmer/Dalton in Playoff games was inconsequential)

The Folks that have put an Absolute Stamp of Failure on the Future will be the ones deserving of Crow eating IF Mike and Marvin can find Post Season success.

(05-09-2017, 10:59 AM)ochocincos Wrote: