(02-20-2018, 05:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Please tell me you are not serious.

(02-20-2018, 06:07 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Very Doubtful.... Fanciful idea's aren't always possible or realistic as you all make them out to be.

(02-20-2018, 06:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: But I'm certain you wouldn't run the team with an eye on mediocrity. Would you?

(02-20-2018, 07:03 PM)jj22 Wrote: No, most teams try (and fail). I don't fault them for that. But we are stuck around the 6-10/8-8 mark, so all it takes is a smart (urgency to win now) offseason to get over the hump,

(02-20-2018, 06:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: The Browns are due, and they have revamped the Front Office to an all star cast.

(02-20-2018, 07:08 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: However where there wrong is that they need to get rid of players like Pacman,  Laffell,  Johnson, and Rey. You can sign a legit starter with that money.

(02-20-2018, 07:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Pacman LaFell and Johnson are already legit starters.

So can you sign three legit starters for the exact same money?

(02-20-2018, 01:45 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: A few interesting nuggets from the latest Hobson' Choice:


On taking a LB with the 12th pick:

I can’t seem taking a linebacker that high even if they needed one. It’s just not in their DNA.

I think for them in this day and age a spot that high is reserved for corners, pass rushers and D-tackles. I think with Vontaze Burfict, Nick Vigil, and Jordan Evans, they feel very good. But you’re right about depth and I think they’ll take a backer on the third day.

On going after a LT in free agency:

Left tackle is the one spot where I wish they would make an exception in their free-agent philosophy and go get an unrestricted guy early. And maybe they will. But I think at the moment they’re thinking those guys are so valued there won’t be anyone available that’s worthy by the time free agency rolls around March 14. And you have to think of those Carlos Dunlap and Geno Atkins contracts. I would think that precludes a deal like Solder would command, if he’s even available. I do agree with them. Geno and Carlos have to be the priorities and if that means a guy like Orlando Brown at No. 12, that’s good, too. I think by the time Draft Day gets here, the tackles are going to be in the mix up there with the defensive players.  

On considering a QB at 12:

There’s no question if they think a worthy QB is there at No. 12 they will at least talk about it. Just like if there’s a corner or wide receiver or whatever else is there. They would talk about it seriously. But unless they think the guy is an absolute lock and is an upgrade over Andy Dalton, it’s a short conversation. I mean, if he hangs around until 12, that’s enough reason not to draft him since you’ve already got a guy up and going.

The team has a much higher opinion of Dalton than certain elements of the fan base as we all know so the last thing they’re going to do at that position is reach. I do think they’ll draft a QB and it’s going to be a name we know. But it’s going to be in the bottom of the third at the earliest as Dalton’s backup.

On local product Preston Brown as a possible FA interest:

You’re right. Buffalo’s Preston Brown is a Cincy kid and they figure to be looking at him on tape as they sketch out their free-agent plans. I think they like how they set up at backer and they don’t go after UFAs. But I could also see them having an interest in a home town guy like Brown, an extremely productive player.

On whether the Bengals will re-sign Atkins, Dunlap and Dennard, and if they should trade one:

They usually get their guys if they want them and they really want Geno and Dunlap, and Dennard is headed that way, too. That’s why you’re not going to see the big free-agent splash in March.

The whole idea behind keeping Lewis as head coach is because Mike believes they’re close. This isn’t 2003. It’s not a re-building job. If you trade one of your two best pass rushers or your best slot corner, you’re killing yourself for this year. Can’t see them doing that after keeping Lewis. They want to win now with the head coach and QB in place.


Full article at Bengals.com.

(02-20-2018, 05:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Please tell me you are not serious.

(02-20-2018, 08:15 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Interesting that Hobs said that they want to "win now".  Win what, another one and done appearance in the playoffs?

If they really want to win a championship, now;  Then they are going to have to go rogue from the standard Bengal protocol, and do some wheeling and dealing.  That's right, some average guys are going to have to be let go, and a couple of big timer's brought in.  Can't rely on the draft to solve everything.

(02-20-2018, 01:45 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: On taking a LB with the 12th pick:

I can’t seem taking a linebacker that high even if they needed one. It’s just not in their DNA.

I think for them in this day and age a spot that high is reserved for corners, pass rushers and D-tackles. I think with Vontaze Burfict, Nick Vigil, and Jordan Evans, they feel very good. But you’re right about depth and I think they’ll take a backer on the third day.


On local product Preston Brown as a possible FA interest:

You’re right. Buffalo’s Preston Brown is a Cincy kid and they figure to be looking at him on tape as they sketch out their free-agent plans. I think they like how they set up at backer and they don’t go after UFAs. But I could also see them having an interest in a home town guy like Brown, an extremely productive player.

(02-20-2018, 08:39 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:

Burfict can't play more than 10-11 games/season (provided he doesn't get concussed again and miss the whole season), Vigil was truly truly AWFUL, and Evans was just as terrible.

PFF has Vigil ranked as the 84th LB (that's among 3-4 ILBs + all 4-3 LBs, 3-4 OLB are not included) and Evans as the 85th LB. They had grades of 35.1 and 35.0, respectively.

Then Burfict will get hurt and Vincent Rey will step in for him (45.7 grade, 63rd among LBs) and we will get to watch every single RB in the league truck over our LBs and starting CBs (Jones/Kirkpatrick).

Who isn't excited for the 2018 season to be here already?  

(02-20-2018, 07:56 PM)McC Wrote: Excuse me whole I fart the Hobsmoke out of my ass.

If they feel good about their LB situation, they weren't watching the same defense I was last year.

And no, they are not close.  And Hobs, quit acting like Marvin only gets two years.  It's as close to needing rebuilt as it is to being a SB contender.

Allow me to summarize--same ol' shit.  Lie about changes in January, laugh at the suckers who bought that load come March.  They are pillars of consistency.

(02-20-2018, 08:23 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Unless "win now" involves serious action and breaking from status quo, it's just more empty talk to sell tickets.

(02-20-2018, 10:09 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: the "win now" is referring to the constant interest applied to the bank account they put that 'hold over' cap space in.

that will definitely "win now" as it has for the past 20+ years.

(02-20-2018, 03:31 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Oddly enough the Bills drafted two Cincinnati kids that are former Louisville Cardinals over the years that I thought would be perfect for the Bengals in Eric Wood and Preston Brown.

Seems we have not much interest in homegrown talents and or surrounding college fan bases located in Bengals territory unless you are a kicker, punter or late round pick.

Many Cards, Buckeyes, and Wildcats have been passed by that could have helped in early rounds imo.

(02-20-2018, 08:23 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Unless "win now" involves serious action and breaking from status quo, it's just more empty talk to sell tickets.