(04-14-2019, 11:22 PM)Joelist Wrote: So name the better options you believed they should have signed. 

Me I agree they should have targeted LB in Free Agency and dropped the big dollars for Mosley. On offensive line the pickings were sparse. Miller was actually in the Top 10 offensive line Free Agents rankings - which tells you how lean the cupboard was. 

(04-14-2019, 04:43 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Agreed. I loved the Taylor signing, but everything since has kinda taken away from that excitement. The Bengals really had a big opportunity to change the culture and some perceptions, but it doesn't seem like they're willing to change their methods. 

I'm still looking forward to seeing what Taylor brings (and the new staff - despite their unimpressive resumes). I like that the staff is following successful trends, like having an offensive minded HC calling plays while the "offensive coordinator" acts in a different manner.

Just wish this FO was more willing to change themselves to help Taylor and co be in a better position to be successful immediately. Instead, this FA was worse than standard fare...even by Bengals standards.

At this point, we just have to hope that a regime change has a major impact (which is possible if Taylor winds up a diamond) and we hit on some major needs in the draft.

All coaches need players. Marvin couldn't even win regular season 1pm games without it. Sean McVay saw a weakness in the Rams o-line and the Rams addressed it with Whitworth. We addressed it with Hart and Miller. Obviously there's quite a difference there.

(04-15-2019, 12:12 AM)Joelist Wrote: Which does nothing about the reality that this was a poor Free Agent class at OL, and we saw very middling players pull huge paychecks.

(04-15-2019, 12:17 AM)samhain Wrote: I'm holding out hope that they can have a nice draft and alleviate some concerns.  They need to from a talent standpoint.  They have 2 position groups in o-line and linebacker that are going to hurt them badly.  

This offseason since the Taylor hire has been an unmitigated disaster IMO.  They looked at 6 or 7 dudes before they signed some guy that I guarantee 80 percent of this board has never heard of before the move in Louie Slapnuts.   Jim Turner is a proven trash heap of a man that has no real record of being a great line coach, either.  The other staff guys were just dudes.  These guys are the expendables of NFL assistants. Nobody in the league wanted them but they're old drinkin' buddy Zac.  Not real exciting.  

Then you had FA, which was basically bringing back the same guys from last year with a Buffalo reject thrown in.  How inspired.

(04-14-2019, 06:18 PM)Whatever Wrote: Take it with a grain of salt, but Carpenter had a PFF grade of 56 and Fluker was 49.  Neither represents an upgrade.  In fact, Fluker is a big downgrade.

Williams is coming off a major knee injury and probably made the best decision he could have staying with the Panthers.  He doesn't have to adjust to a new scheme and teammates while recovering.

I liked James as a FA, but he got twice what he was projected to get.  While an average RT is a big upgrade, he is still getting elite money for being simply average.

Saffold is a good LG, but he's up there in age and maybe doesn't translate to RG.

(04-15-2019, 12:17 AM)samhain Wrote: I'm holding out hope that they can have a nice draft and alleviate some concerns.  They need to from a talent standpoint.  They have 2 position groups in o-line and linebacker that are going to hurt them badly.  

This offseason since the Taylor hire has been an unmitigated disaster IMO.  They looked at 6 or 7 dudes before they signed some guy that I guarantee 80 percent of this board has never heard of before the move in Louie Slapnuts.   Jim Turner is a proven trash heap of a man that has no real record of being a great line coach, either.  The other staff guys were just dudes.  These guys are the expendables of NFL assistants. Nobody in the league wanted them but they're old drinkin' buddy Zac.  Not real exciting.  

Then you had FA, which was basically bringing back the same guys from last year with a Buffalo reject thrown in.  How inspired.

(04-14-2019, 06:33 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm not sure if you mean this as a knock against them, seeing as the Rams scored 3 points in the SB.

(04-14-2019, 11:30 PM)TKUHL Wrote: It's a "New-Dey" can I patent this?

(04-14-2019, 03:43 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Yep.  I was wishing for a starter through free agency at least but we settled for crap again.  Only thing I can think of we are really tanking the next two years waiting on QB Lawrence

(04-14-2019, 12:13 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: So what's the new motto? We are running out of ways to use "dey". Dump Dey?

(04-14-2019, 11:31 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Too bad the "new" approach to free agency was even worse than the old.

Hope all the other "new" stuff is better.

(04-15-2019, 07:10 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: If that is the plan, I am actually okay with it. Two bad years to get that level of QB play would be worth it.

(04-14-2019, 07:11 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I usually say that a free agent will go wherever he gets the most money, but maybe the free gent O-linemen just did not want to play here.   Maybe they don't want to deal with Turner's BS, or maybe they just don't have any respect or confidence in the whole new regime.

But even if Hart was the best we could get we should not have paid him $7 million for next year.

(04-15-2019, 03:54 PM)Joelist Wrote: Back to the actual thread topic, we still need to see this new O Line system. If it really finally ditches the zone blocking concepts in favor of power blocking and directional drive blocking then good! I expect preseason game one will be revealing.

(04-14-2019, 11:30 PM)TKUHL Wrote: It's a "New-Dey" can I patent this?

(04-15-2019, 05:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Players make schemes look good or bad. Coaches can only make mediocre players look so good. My issue is the FO has not given the coaches enough OL talent to succeed in 2019, the same issues we had with 2018. Th team tried to address the OL with Glenn signing and then 1st round pick, but in the end, the OL just was not good enough to get it done. Yet, we are standing pat it appears in 2019 starting OL.

(04-15-2019, 05:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Players make schemes look good or bad. Coaches can only make mediocre players look so good. My issue is the FO has not given the coaches enough OL talent to succeed in 2019, the same issues we had with 2018. Th team tried to address the OL with Glenn signing and then 1st round pick, but in the end, the OL just was not good enough to get it done. Yet, we are standing pat it appears in 2019 starting OL.