(10-03-2019, 12:23 PM)thillan Wrote: Yeah I know the OP was sarcasm, and this thread has a serious conversation.. I think I’d give him another year no matter what. Bengals had one of the worst defenses last year, and didn’t bring in anything. Offensive line is a wash, with retirement and injuries.

Really, we are mad at the guy, but what can you expect. Mediocre QB, poor OL, poor defense that brought in no new talent, how can you improve?

(10-03-2019, 01:43 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Turner is ZT's buddy. I doubt ZT wants him fired.

(10-03-2019, 01:43 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Turner is ZT's buddy. I doubt ZT wants him fired.

(10-03-2019, 01:54 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Maybe so, but Taylor will learn that "buddies" may hinder his progress, and he must learn to cut bait in order to succeed.  This will take time to sink in however because Taylor is young, idealistic, and hopeful.  But when the teeth of reality bites harder, he will take a long look at each coaching position more objectively during the next off season.  His job will be on the line.  

(10-03-2019, 01:57 PM)Nately120 Wrote: This is the NFL though, we shouldn't need our HC to learn basic rules of professionalism and success on the job any more than we should be teaching NFL players "fundamentals."  This, like the o-line, is one of those things that our process is going to lead to a 5+ year fix.

(10-03-2019, 11:02 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's a bit premature to put this list together, but lets start to create a list:

Bob Fredricks - He's the passing game coordinator for the Fort Sumner Middle School offense. Their passing offense was ranked last in the conference when he took over. He's managed to boost their rankings to next to last now. He brings a high flying, innovative approach to the game. There's a soundclip of him charismatically firing his players up before a game saying 'Let's gain some yards through the air!!!' His team then responded with a 175 yard aerial assault on the Ligonier Alligators in a scrimmage.

Cons - He doesn't have much experience. He was the 6th grade girls volleyball coach the previous season. 2 Years before that he was a high school math teacher and golf coach. He was fired as golf coach, but reports say he didn't have much talent on the team.

What candidates do you have? 

(10-03-2019, 01:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yeah, that's a sticky wickett.  I assume Turner will get the axe eventually, but ZT vouched for him and gave us a load of "don't believe what you've read or seen, believe me" in regards to Turner and Bobby Hart.  It's just the worst sort of coach-speak, but I get it.

Is Turner the guy who is like his cousin's father in law or something like that?


At any rate, it's a knock on ZT (in addition to the FO, mostly) that we are already ready calling for the firings of the guys he brought to help him.  Who do you think is going to to show up to replace them?  Ugh.

(10-03-2019, 02:07 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I am glad this thread was a joke. I never jumped on we are fixed because we hired a new HC train, but I think ZT should get at least 2 years to prove he can coach in the league, not 4 games. Now is we go 0-16 and team regresses with a lot of poor coaching, my stance could change.

(10-03-2019, 11:39 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I bet legit coaches would wanna come to a team that just fired a guy after one season. Let’s just stop the madness Taylor might not be the guy but we need to give him time to find out what he can do with a real offensive line. This roster is a mess and will take time to fix. Always thought a coach needed  3 years to get his system and players in place. If we don’t see progress in year 2 I would start to get worried. Plus people act like Mcvay just came to the Rams and his system just magically turned the team around. The Rams front office helped him out big time. They signed Andrew Withworth , Robert Woods, Suh, Aqib Talib, traded for Brandin Cooks , Patrick Peters,  and Dante Flower JR. And they supplemented that with having good drafts and had talent like Arron Donald and Gurley  already on the roster. They also signed a great Veteran Defense coordinator with head coach experience in Wade Phillips. To help out Taylor the Bengals signed a DC with no experience who was there 5th option and signed free agents like B.W. Webb, Wynn and John Miller.

(10-03-2019, 02:17 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: If zac truly is the man for the job, then he needs to grow a pair and stand up to the front office. Duke Tobin and the Brown family completely set him up for failure, and I hope he realizes this. The front office was likely delusional enough to think this offensive line was competent, that we didn’t need any help at linebacker, etc... Zac should have demanded more help. But he didn’t. He stood pat and let this shit show form. So either he knew this and didn’t have the courage to stand up to ownership.... or he agreed with everything they did.

(10-03-2019, 02:17 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: If zac truly is the man for the job, then he needs to grow a pair and stand up to the front office. Duke Tobin and the Brown family completely set him up for failure, and I hope he realizes this. The front office was likely delusional enough to think this offensive line was competent, that we didn’t need any help at linebacker, etc... Zac should have demanded more help. But he didn’t. He stood pat and let this shit show form. So either he knew this and didn’t have the courage to stand up to ownership.... or he agreed with everything they did.

(10-03-2019, 01:57 PM)Nately120 Wrote: This is the NFL though, we shouldn't need our HC to learn basic rules of professionalism and success on the job any more than we should be teaching NFL players "fundamentals."  This, like the o-line, is one of those things that our process is going to lead to a 5+ year fix.

(10-03-2019, 11:49 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You'll always have the Seahawks loss...to look back fondly on. Peak Taylor.

(10-03-2019, 02:10 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: As of now, the guys look lost. IF they continue to look lost. Or if they totally tune out the coaches...which during the Steelers game some of that seemed to be starting to happen...They may be forced to fire him.