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RE: Andy, Case,Jameis,Josh, Jacoby. - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 07-18-2020
(07-17-2020, 03:40 PM)Whatever Wrote: 2 WR's in the top 50 is impressive, especially since our #1 WR didn't play all year.
Any position group is going to struggle when you're forced to play a bunch of 7th round picks and UDFA's. Our #1 missed the whole year, our #3 missed half the year, and we had a bunch of scrubs behind them. Trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shxt isn't a recipe for success. Would any of us blame an OL coach who was forced to play a bunch of 7th rounders and UDFA's for poor performances and tell them they need to scheme better? No. You have to have talent out there.
I would say it is a bit of both, sure the injuries to Green and Ross were devastating but the coaching also needs to really improve.
RE: Andy, Case,Jameis,Josh, Jacoby. - rfaulk34 - 07-19-2020
(07-17-2020, 12:54 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Nope. PFF rating for 2018 was 81.9, the highest on his career.
Live by the PFF. Die by the PFF.
In 2015 his overall grade was 80.3, 1.6 points lower than in 2018.
In 2015 his passing grade was 82.3, 3 points higher than in 2018.
The reason his overall grade was higher in 2018 is because his running grade in 2015 was 48.6, while in 2018 it was 69.7
So, while PFF states he was "better" in 2018, it's due to the overall grade, not just the passing grade, which was 3 points higher in 2015.
RE: Andy, Case,Jameis,Josh, Jacoby. - fredtoast - 07-20-2020
(07-19-2020, 12:43 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: In 2015 his overall grade was 80.3, 1.6 points lower than in 2018.
In 2015 his passing grade was 82.3, 3 points higher than in 2018.
The reason his overall grade was higher in 2018 is because his running grade in 2015 was 48.6, while in 2018 it was 69.7
So, while PFF states he was "better" in 2018, it's due to the overall grade, not just the passing grade, which was 3 points higher in 2015.
Right. Dalton's amazing running production in 2018 certainly explains why it boosted his rating higher than 2015
2018... 9.0 yards per game.... 0 tds...... 4 first downs
2015...10.9 yards per game... 3 tds...... 15 first downs
RE: Andy, Case,Jameis,Josh, Jacoby. - Shake n Blake - 07-20-2020
(07-16-2020, 11:49 PM)PAjwPhilly Wrote: None of these players are Bengals, so they don't belong in JN.
You moved a post about Gruden, because he wasn't a Bengal what is different here?
Because OP was referencing Andy limiting our big plays last year, and hinting that we may get better in the future with a better QB. That is relevant to the team.
Although I've heard some mods ban people for bashing Andy, so I guess we're slacking.
RE: Andy, Case,Jameis,Josh, Jacoby. - rfaulk34 - 07-20-2020
(07-20-2020, 01:32 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Right. Dalton's amazing running production in 2018 certainly explains why it boosted his rating higher than 2015
2018... 9.0 yards per game.... 0 tds...... 4 first downs
2015...10.9 yards per game... 3 tds...... 15 first downs
What i'm saying is...his passer rating was 3 points higher in 2015, which backs up what you and i believe; he had a better year passing in 2015. PFF agrees.