(12-13-2021, 04:58 PM)Joelist Wrote: Remember the PBS lease is up in 2026 and so far nothing on a renewal. If the Bengals came out and said they need a new stadium to remain what would your response be?

(12-13-2021, 05:41 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Dayton is a shithole and Columbus, well, all I can say is Detroit is a better city than Columbus. Wait... That's a lie. Detroit is a slum but I just don't like Columbus. Although, if another city in Ohio was to get the Bengals, Huber Heights or Springfield would be a better place. Yet, has to be on I-70 or south of it. Anything north is stain country.

(12-14-2021, 09:07 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Hey, be nice.  Downtown Dayton has some very nice areas and the suburbs are awesome.  That being said, there is no way a stadium would be built here.  The Dragons (Reds "A" ball affiliate) is in Dayton and the community loves them.  Something like a 25 year consecutive sell out record.  

Columbus is (I believe) one of the 12 largest cities in the country.  It could absolutely sustain a stadium and team, but the NFL doesn't like to compete with college towns.  That is one reason the pro teams have not approached USC in LA.  Even though they suck, USC is huge out there.  Ask Lincoln Riley.

The Bengals ever leave Cincy, no pro NFL team is coming back.  

I don't think they will leave, though.  

(12-14-2021, 07:15 AM)kevin Wrote: IF....That magic word IF. 

Since the Bengals refuse to talk contracts during the season and refuse to try to resign Reiff or the still very young safety talent of Bates Motel, then I as a Fan refuse to discuss New Stadiums for same owners During The Season.  The old what goes around comes around.  Bengals are in a Play-Off Hunt, and if they can't talk contracts, we should not talk new Stadiums.  

Of course the Bengals are not talking New Stadium, so this all goes back to.....IF. 

I'm only concerned now with moving on to The At Denver Game. 

(12-13-2021, 04:58 PM)Joelist Wrote: Remember the PBS lease is up in 2026 and so far nothing on a renewal. If the Bengals came out and said they need a new stadium to remain what would your response be?

(12-14-2021, 11:01 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I just did a tour of Allegiant Stadium a couple of weeks ago. The stadium is awesome. To answer the question, yes with stipulations to help fund it.
1. Dome Stadium - but with natural grass. We got to see them roll the grass field outside while we were there and then they were setting up a turf field for the college team to play.
2. Stadium must use a sponsor and team gets 30% of the revenue and the county/city gets 70%. Paul Brown is dead and can be honored inside the stadium in many ways just as the Raiders honored Al Davis.
3. Team funds 49% and city county funds 51% (they own it and not Bengals).
4. Events can be held year round, revenue split the same as abobe 30% team and 70% for teh city/county.

Cincinnati could finally get a Super Bowl, basketball final 4, concerts year round and many more events to bring people downtown to help businesses and help pay for a state of the art stadium.

I say go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

(12-14-2021, 02:52 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Look at the 7 years of free agents we signed before PBS vs the 7 years that followed:

Before: Garrison Hearst, Ashley Ambrose (better than any CB we've signed since), Neil O'Donnell, Eric Bieniemy, Jimmy Spencer, Andre Collins, Keith Rucker, Derrick Fenner (800 yard season with 14 TDs in Seattle), Clyde Simmons, Myron Bell, Michael Bankston, Oliver Gibson, Richmond Webb, etc

After: Tory James, John Thornton, Reggie Kelly, Kevin Hardy, Kenny Watson, Kim Herring, Duane Clemons, Bryon Robinson, Carl Powell, Nate Webster, Jon Kitna (better than ODonnell? Eh), Antonio Chatman, Dhani Jones, Dexter Jackson, etc.

Where's the giant leap in quality?

(12-14-2021, 06:50 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: It's not just about if they can support a team, it's also about if they would be cutting into surrounding teams markets. The owners still have to approve a new location.

Also.... Portsmouth, VA? Because that's way too small. (And 9+ hours from Cincinnati.) Charlotte, WV? Honestly this post is all kinds of confusing.

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NFL's best chance is trying to go North to Canada if they want new cities, or maybe Portland. Or simply go back to San Diego with private stadium funding.

(12-14-2021, 11:01 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I just did a tour of Allegiant Stadium a couple of weeks ago. The stadium is awesome. To answer the question, yes with stipulations to help fund it.
1. Dome Stadium - but with natural grass. We got to see them roll the grass field outside while we were there and then they were setting up a turf field for the college team to play.
2. Stadium must use a sponsor and team gets 30% of the revenue and the county/city gets 70%. Paul Brown is dead and can be honored inside the stadium in many ways just as the Raiders honored Al Davis.
3. Team funds 49% and city county funds 51% (they own it and not Bengals).
4. Events can be held year round, revenue split the same as abobe 30% team and 70% for teh city/county.

Cincinnati could finally get a Super Bowl, basketball final 4, concerts year round and many more events to bring people downtown to help businesses and help pay for a state of the art stadium.

I say go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

(12-14-2021, 12:03 PM)Whatever Wrote: As said before, Hearst was a waiver clam, not a FA.  

Fenner came in '92, outside of the 7 year window from '93 to '99 and before the institution of modern FA in '93.

Webb actually signed in '01, so move him from the pre PBS group to the post PBS group.

Can't believe you left out Bobbie Williams and Lorenzo Neal in your post PBS list.  Neal even made the Pro Bowl for us.  You throw out Fenner but omit Gus Frerotte who was a former Pro Bowler when he signed here?  Michael Westbrook had an 1100 yard season for the skins.  Tony Williams?  

I mean, you literally left off 2 of the best Post PBS FA's and included 3 guys in Pre PBS list that don't belong.

(12-14-2021, 01:35 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Sorry man.  Portsmouth, OH.  Actually I believe there was once a professional team there.  Big football area, with a large Bengal base in most directions.  Would also move us closer to Shitsburgh to add to the rivalry.  I'm just sayin'...

(12-13-2021, 10:05 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: No, why, I live in Cleveland

(12-13-2021, 04:58 PM)Joelist Wrote: Remember the PBS lease is up in 2026 and so far nothing on a renewal. If the Bengals came out and said they need a new stadium to remain what would your response be?

(12-14-2021, 04:48 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Is the current stadium even paid for yet?

I really don't know the answer to that as I don't live in Ohio any longer.

And, isn't it one of the newer stadiums in the league?

Who was in-charge of building the current stadium? Didn't they know what they were doing and build it right so that it would fill the needs for a long time? [I guess that was a rhetorical question]

 

(12-13-2021, 05:41 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Dayton is a shithole and Columbus, well, all I can say is Detroit is a better city than Columbus. Wait... That's a lie. Detroit is a slum but I just don't like Columbus. Although, if another city in Ohio was to get the Bengals, Huber Heights or Springfield would be a better place. Yet, has to be on I-70 or south of it. Anything north is stain country.

(12-14-2021, 07:36 PM)samhain Wrote: I'd be all for it.  I'm not sure about the city as a whole.  There's a lot of animosity toward the Brown family and probably even moreso regarding the stadium deal.  

I suppose one thing they have going for them is that a lot of people that were pissed about it are much older and that there are a lot of younger potential taxpayers out there that may not be of an age to remember the outcry over the last deal.

(12-14-2021, 07:52 PM)treee Wrote: Huber Heights is in the Dayton Metro Area. You can literally drive for 1-2 minutes on I-75 and go from downtown Dayton to Huber Heights. Also it's weird to call Dayton a shit hole and then recommend Springfield. I personally like both cities but Dayton has a lot more to do, and lot more industry, better public transportation. Both cities have good metro parks. I don't think either city is big enough for an NFL team unless maybe the league expanded to 64 teams.

(12-13-2021, 05:41 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Dayton is a shithole and Columbus, well, all I can say is Detroit is a better city than Columbus. Wait... That's a lie. Detroit is a slum but I just don't like Columbus. Although, if another city in Ohio was to get the Bengals, Huber Heights or Springfield would be a better place. Yet, has to be on I-70 or south of it. Anything north is stain country.