(11-07-2022, 07:35 PM)ochocincos Wrote: My opinion is that it doesn't necessarily matter if you're allowing a good YPC, because if you're still allowing a lot of yards, your run defense isn't ultimately effective. I know that teams are getting up on them early and thus running more on them compared to other teams.

I know not everyone agrees with that and they put more value on YPC, but that is how I feel.

(11-08-2022, 12:50 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Mixon's problems this year have been because of poor Oline play.  Yesterday the Oline did a good job opening up some running lanes and Mixon was able to hit them.  If the Oline continues to play like they did yesterday, Mixon will continue to have good games.  If the Oline gets pushed around like they have been most of the season, Mixon will struggle.  Same is true with Burrow.  If the Oline gives him time, Burrow will make plays.  If the Oline lets Burrow get hit and pressured, Burrow will not do as well.  It all comes down to how well the Oline plays.

(11-08-2022, 12:12 AM)bengals73 Wrote: This is a great interview with Mixon by Rich Eisen. Joe says they had a player only meeting yada yada yada..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l2h7bOJGpo

(11-08-2022, 12:50 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Mixon's problems this year have been because of poor Oline play.  Yesterday the Oline did a good job opening up some running lanes and Mixon was able to hit them.  If the Oline continues to play like they did yesterday, Mixon will continue to have good games.  If the Oline gets pushed around like they have been most of the season, Mixon will struggle.  Same is true with Burrow.  If the Oline gives him time, Burrow will make plays.  If the Oline lets Burrow get hit and pressured, Burrow will not do as well.  It all comes down to how well the Oline plays.

(11-08-2022, 02:59 AM)kevin Wrote: I put it more on Zac Taylor.  He has had games such as at Cleveland where he calls the pass all game.  If  Zac refuses to call run plays, then there will be no run blocking or run game.  It is silly for Zac Taylor not to call run plays, even when team has Chase, Higgins, Boyd.  The Bengals can run the ball if Zac would only call more run plays as he did against Panthers.  You can not run the ball only 5 or 6 times in a game and blame low rushing yards on blockers and Mixon.  The Bengals have a good Defense, a good running game, a good passing game and a good kicking game.   Sometimes however, Zac goes into a mood where he calls the pass all game long, and that loses ball games.  I hope Coach Taylor can be more like Panthers game, and call as many run plays as pass plays going forward, because that is when Bengals look their best.  Do not get so into Chase, Higgins and Boyd that you forget to use Mixon, Perine and the run game.  There have been games the O line was run blocking just fine, but Coach Taylor got pass happy all game.  The Ravens, Browns and Steelers can all run the ball, and so must the Bengals,  Coach Taylor needs to remember the importance of the run game in The AFC North.  

So I see the lack of a run game has mostly been the lack of Coach Taylor to call run plays.  The run was always there, Coach Taylor just got pass happy and had games he refused to call running plays and Bengals lost.  If passing every play won, it would be fine, but passing every play does not win.  Bengals are better when Coach Taylor remembers to call run plays also. 

(11-07-2022, 10:12 PM)Housh Wrote: I’m of the camp where i believe Mixon never actually got worse at running

I think the scheme was trash and Mixon just isn’t that type of back. He’s one cut and explode, the scheme was tooled more for a Laveon Bell type back. Bell was a genius at dancing behind the crowd and finding a hole with patience. Mixon is a wrecking ball type back. The scheme he succeeds behind is one where the lineman are firing off the line with the purpose of blocking a specific guy and pushing that guy back. He can’t create holes but he’s amazing at exploding thru them

(11-07-2022, 12:18 PM)LebanonFan Wrote: Mixon looked like he was running harder and more decisively.  He looked like he was shot out of a cannon on some plays.  Really, the jet sweeps looked like that too…like the play had already gained yardage before it could even be diagnosed.  Not sure that can happen every week, but it looked well planned.  Also plenty of Stanley Morgan blocks on the edge to spring 5 yard gains to 8-12 yards

(11-07-2022, 01:49 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: They had Kyle Clasky on the radio (Bengals old RB coach and the guy who drafted Mixon). He said that if a RB isn't getting carries, they can get frustrated and down on themselves...which can result to almost a subliminal lack of effort. Wonder if this is what was going on with Joe. 

(11-08-2022, 02:59 AM)kevin Wrote: I put it more on Zac Taylor.  He has had games such as at Cleveland where he calls the pass all game.  If  Zac refuses to call run plays, then there will be no run blocking or run game.  It is silly for Zac Taylor not to call run plays, even when team has Chase, Higgins, Boyd.  The Bengals can run the ball if Zac would only call more run plays as he did against Panthers.  You can not run the ball only 5 or 6 times in a game and blame low rushing yards on blockers and Mixon.  The Bengals have a good Defense, a good running game, a good passing game and a good kicking game.   Sometimes however, Zac goes into a mood where he calls the pass all game long, and that loses ball games.  I hope Coach Taylor can be more like Panthers game, and call as many run plays as pass plays going forward, because that is when Bengals look their best.  Do not get so into Chase, Higgins and Boyd that you forget to use Mixon, Perine and the run game.  There have been games the O line was run blocking just fine, but Coach Taylor got pass happy all game.  The Ravens, Browns and Steelers can all run the ball, and so must the Bengals,  Coach Taylor needs to remember the importance of the run game in The AFC North.  

So I see the lack of a run game has mostly been the lack of Coach Taylor to call run plays.  The run was always there, Coach Taylor just got pass happy and had games he refused to call running plays and Bengals lost.  If passing every play won, it would be fine, but passing every play does not win.  Bengals are better when Coach Taylor remembers to call run plays also. 

This is crazy.

Bengals Weeks 1-4
% Of Runs Zone Scheme = 54%
Joe Mixon Yards Per Carry = 2.7
10+ Yard Runs = 2

Bengals Weeks 5-9
% Of Runs Zone Scheme = 26%
Joe Mixon Yards Per Carry = 5.2
10+ Yard Runs = 10

Excellent adjustment by Zac Taylor to go more Gap Runs.

— Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) November 9, 2022

A great note here is that both Ted Karras and Alex Cappa, while great signings, are not great athletes. Makes total sense that things are opening up going with more pin & pull type of runs of front as opposed to stretch runs.

— Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) November 9, 2022

(11-10-2022, 10:50 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote:

A great note here is that both Ted Karras and Alex Cappa, while great signings, are not great athletes. Makes total sense that things are opening up going with more pin & pull type of runs of front as opposed to stretch runs.

— Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) November 9, 2022

(11-08-2022, 02:59 AM)kevin Wrote: I put it more on Zac Taylor.  He has had games such as at Cleveland where he calls the pass all game.  If  Zac refuses to call run plays, then there will be no run blocking or run game.  It is silly for Zac Taylor not to call run plays, even when team has Chase, Higgins, Boyd.  The Bengals can run the ball if Zac would only call more run plays as he did against Panthers.  You can not run the ball only 5 or 6 times in a game and blame low rushing yards on blockers and Mixon.  The Bengals have a good Defense, a good running game, a good passing game and a good kicking game.   Sometimes however, Zac goes into a mood where he calls the pass all game long, and that loses ball games.  I hope Coach Taylor can be more like Panthers game, and call as many run plays as pass plays going forward, because that is when Bengals look their best.  Do not get so into Chase, Higgins and Boyd that you forget to use Mixon, Perine and the run game.  There have been games the O line was run blocking just fine, but Coach Taylor got pass happy all game.  The Ravens, Browns and Steelers can all run the ball, and so must the Bengals,  Coach Taylor needs to remember the importance of the run game in The AFC North.  

So I see the lack of a run game has mostly been the lack of Coach Taylor to call run plays.  The run was always there, Coach Taylor just got pass happy and had games he refused to call running plays and Bengals lost.  If passing every play won, it would be fine, but passing every play does not win.  Bengals are better when Coach Taylor remembers to call run plays also. 

(11-08-2022, 02:59 AM)kevin Wrote: I put it more on Zac Taylor.  He has had games such as at Cleveland where he calls the pass all game.  If  Zac refuses to call run plays, then there will be no run blocking or run game.  It is silly for Zac Taylor not to call run plays, even when team has Chase, Higgins, Boyd.  The Bengals can run the ball if Zac would only call more run plays as he did against Panthers.  You can not run the ball only 5 or 6 times in a game and blame low rushing yards on blockers and Mixon.  The Bengals have a good Defense, a good running game, a good passing game and a good kicking game.   Sometimes however, Zac goes into a mood where he calls the pass all game long, and that loses ball games.  I hope Coach Taylor can be more like Panthers game, and call as many run plays as pass plays going forward, because that is when Bengals look their best.  Do not get so into Chase, Higgins and Boyd that you forget to use Mixon, Perine and the run game.  There have been games the O line was run blocking just fine, but Coach Taylor got pass happy all game.  The Ravens, Browns and Steelers can all run the ball, and so must the Bengals,  Coach Taylor needs to remember the importance of the run game in The AFC North.  

So I see the lack of a run game has mostly been the lack of Coach Taylor to call run plays.  The run was always there, Coach Taylor just got pass happy and had games he refused to call running plays and Bengals lost.  If passing every play won, it would be fine, but passing every play does not win.  Bengals are better when Coach Taylor remembers to call run plays also.