(01-26-2023, 07:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yeah, some of our players get love, but let's be honest, hardly anyone who isn't a huge fan knows who guys like Hendrickson and Reader are. We have a lot of players who should be national names with how key they are to our success.

Joe is just so amazing that he is usually all that gets talked about. Does he deserve it? Absolutely. I just hate when stars get so big that people lose their minds and forget that it's a team game.

It kinda reminds me of how Chad got all the love but no one knew about Willie or some of the other great players we had. Or how Atkins had a HOF career in relative obscurity. People knew about AJ Green though.

(01-27-2023, 12:01 PM)Graphicguy Wrote: Yeah…he mentioned he had been courted by other teams, although during the interview he didn’t mention who they were. And yes, he said his wife loves (loved?) Cincinnati from their time here before UC fired him. You would think that would have left them with a bad taste.

But, he said his wife made a lot of friends in that 9 month period in Cincinnati. Given they were in LA for 2 years, that’s pretty telling.

It was good revisiting that interview. It gave insight to how this all transpired and how we are where we are today. He said he was fired from UC via text while he was watching a Bengals game at PBS (now Paycor).

He said it happened pretty quickly. While he was still in LA, there was some sort of what he called a “slip” that coaches are given telling them who wants to interview them and for what positions. He interviewed but had to make his mind up quickly because once you linger, NFL teams move on to their next candidates pretty quickly. He said he accepted the Bengals job immediately because of the reputation of the Brown family for being loyal, patient (he knew the turnaround was going to take a bit), and honest. Plus, as mentioned, his wife loved it here.

I think he said it was a round table discussion interview with Mike Brown, his brother, Katie, her husband, and Duke Tobin. Who knows what they spoke about. But, I can imagine it was a look into the future without Dalton and/or AJ Green, as well as some of the others from the previous “regime’”. I doubt they had any inkling Burrow would have turned into the #1 pick at that time as the incredible season he had at LSU hadn’t happened yet. But, he knew there would be some incredible QB talent coming out of that class….Tua, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, etc.

I remember being in Miami the summer before that draft. I had an UBER pick up me and my GF to take us to the cruise terminal. That was when the “Tank for Tua” was at its height. And, the debate was raging about Sewell vs Burrow here. UBER driver was a huge Dolphins fan and a Tua fan. Telling him I was from Cincinnati, he wondered if we would draft Tua or Joe or Sewell. Told him I’d rather have Joe. He disagreed and wanted Tua.

The rest, as they say, is history.

(01-27-2023, 12:51 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Zac liked Andy a lot. But after he benched him to find out how good Ryan Finley was it was tough. Andy was a casualty but Zac wasn’t necessarily trying to get rid of him at any juncture. Andy wanted out as much as anything

(01-27-2023, 01:53 PM)Graphicguy Wrote: Maybe he did like Andy.  I don't recall him mentioning him one way or the other.  However, in the interview, he said he was looking at leaders on the team when he was hired.  He specifically mentioned Mixon, Bates, Pratt, Boyd.  He didn't mention Dalton or Green, at all.  Maybe I read too much into it.  But, given they didn't resign AJ nor Andy and some of the other guys like Dunlap and Atkins, it was clear to me they were only keeping guys who they felt would buy into a total rebuild.

It took way less time to do the rebuild than any of us dreamed (and probably believed in the Bengals front office), but here we are playing for another AFC Championship and, I firmly believe, back to back Super Bowls...this time, we win!

I have zero disappointment or have any resentment in Joe Burrow, or this team overall.  There is nothing I have seen which would lead me to resent anything.  Now if he turns into a jerk like Aaron Rodgers, I may change my tune.  But, I don't get the impression he will.  He's had to struggle too much to get here.  No one believed in him but him.  He doesn't seem to forget that.  Want to dress in Sponge Bob t-shirts?  Or, wear bling?  I got no issues with that.  I will draw the line at a "man bun", though.

(01-26-2023, 10:21 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: There's rebuilding, and then there's going 4-17 without Burrow. If he had gone even 8-13 without Burrow he'd probably get more credit.

Lets put it in these terms. Zac Taylor's winning % without Burrow is worse than Hue Jackson's winning % as a HC. That's not me burying Zac, but just pointing out the reality that when that's the case, you aren't giving a ton of reason to believe otherwise.

(01-27-2023, 04:57 AM)wanga Wrote: Nah nothing about Joey B I can resent.