(11-01-2019, 12:48 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Poor o-line and no run game. I think teams are gonna tee off on Finley and blitz the hell out of him. He does seem to have better pocket presence than Dalton but unless he is Lamar Jackson or Russel Wilson, no way he is escaping the heat that’s about to brought on him.

I agree I think we may see some flashes but I would also expect no less than 3 sacks a game with possible INT. They can shuffle any QB back there they want but until they address the o-line nothing will change.....NOTHING.

(11-01-2019, 10:14 PM)mt415tress Wrote: Andy Dalton hasn’t helped the team win

He is an awful NFL quarterback.

Thank god he’s gone. He sucks.  I don’t know why this is complicated for some

(11-01-2019, 09:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: There is no way Dalton takes another snap unless both Finley and Dolegala get injured.

If Taylor does try that then he truly is clueless as a head coach.

(11-01-2019, 10:08 PM)jason Wrote: Personally if I'm Dalton, I point to Jake Lettersalad if Finley gets hurt. His benching suggests that he's the problem, so someone else should be the solution. From this point forward, he has no obligation to help this team, or help groom his replacement. His future isn't here, so it's best if he just collects a check and has a seat.

(11-01-2019, 09:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Sorry, but I still don't know what you are talking about.  Where have I misquoted anyone or made anything up?


"Hypocrite"  by itself is a personal attack.  

Especially when you can't back it up with anything.

(11-01-2019, 05:23 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I think that answer comes down to how the Bengals would approach the draft.
One could argue that getting a better OL means your team will be better and therefore could cause you to pick later in the draft the following year(s).

Let's say the Bengals pick 12th next year after drafting Andrew Thomas this year.
If they are picking 12th, they likely are not getting a shot at the first, second, or maybe even third QB prospect in the draft.
At that point, they have to decide whether they want to give up draft picks to move up.

Or they could get a QB now given they very likely are getting a top 5 pick in what should be a good QB draft class.
They could get the QB now and deal with the QB getting having a bad OL for a year then address the OL in Rd 1 next year.

Or, you know, actually address OL in FA like a smart person would do and still get your QB in the draft. 

(11-01-2019, 11:45 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: lol. 

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-How-Andy-Dalton-reads-defense-as-well-as-anybody-in-the-league?pid=780745#pid780745
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774271#pid774271
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774553#pid774553
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774583#pid774583
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774584#pid774584

Here's a perfectly reasonable post explaining where i stand. One you completely ignore. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=775037#pid775037

And right after that post, you pick this out to reply to. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=775050#pid775050

Here's another thorough post spreading the blame around and giving legitimate reasons why a different QB could help the team.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-It-s-time-to-face-the-facts?pid=765324#pid765324

And here's your reply to it. Finding one example, a guy who rips Dalton to shreds all the time...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-It-s-time-to-face-the-facts?pid=767374#pid767374

Here's a poster that realizes i post plenty of positive stuff about Dalton. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Andy-loses-us-another-big-game?pid=761853#pid761853

Here's a post that very succinctly explains the question i was asking before you started making up shit about how i was saying "all that matters" when shooting down your and other's examples.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Andy-loses-us-another-big-game?pid=762607#pid762607

Now back to the misquotes and made up stuff. 

I don't know where the hell you came up with this. Mixon is widely regarded as a better RB than Dalton is a QB. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765728#pid765728

Here's a perfect post to highlight your hypocrisy. I used raw stats to show that Keenum was playing better than Dalton and you posted to disagree, citing some lesser player being better than Khalil Mack because he had more stats...yet, you argued and mocked me that Dalton had a better game than Brissett had against the Colts because DALTON HAD BETTER RAW STATS! You can't make this stuff up, folks. Well, Fred can...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765736#pid765736

And here's you going on about that damn Gopher again...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765738#pid765738
Sorry, just had to break up the monotony of all these posts. 

Back to the misquotes...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765749#pid765749
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737503#pid737503
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737505#pid737505
And here's another instance, in a long line of instances, of me explaining what i specifically was looking for.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737585#pid737585

And here i am saying that the types of gameS i'm looking for are the one's that elevate QBs in the eyes of commentators and fans. And your reply?...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737895#pid737895
"Single game"??? Who the **** said anything about a single game?

Here's some more of that bullshit. I said "overall great game", you know...where he plays well throughout? Not just in the first half? And you completely butcherd the post and make shit up.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737897#pid737897

I said 'elevate QBs in other's eyes'. You changed it to...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=738147#pid738147

"won't count". Your favorite made up word.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=738346#pid738346

Ok, that's quite enough for one night and it's just posts from the Dalton sub-forum. There's tenfold in JN. You misquote, make up your own words and logic and build up strawmen like you own a damn farm with the worlds biggest cornfield. But after doing that to not only me, but several people on this forum, you turn right around and tell people to stop--or they can't--make(ing) stuff up. 

If you're still confused after all this, seek help because you have a clear pattern of all you've been accused of and i'm not going to continue to waste my time showing you stuff you said. 

I'll just end for now, with this...

This is just me being Nostradamus, as usual. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=738041#pid738041

(11-01-2019, 12:53 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: The Dalton Gang will critique Finley's every move and not even take into account the horrible line and other excuses they constantly crowed about when it came to Andy. The roles will be reversed and the Dalton Gang will become the Whinners they say they hate.It ain't gonna be pretty!!!

(11-01-2019, 11:45 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: lol. 

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-How-Andy-Dalton-reads-defense-as-well-as-anybody-in-the-league?pid=780745#pid780745
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774271#pid774271
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774553#pid774553
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774583#pid774583
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=774584#pid774584

Here's a perfectly reasonable post explaining where i stand. One you completely ignore. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=775037#pid775037

And right after that post, you pick this out to reply to. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-0-5-86-9-when-does-the-plug-get-pulled?pid=775050#pid775050

Here's another thorough post spreading the blame around and giving legitimate reasons why a different QB could help the team.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-It-s-time-to-face-the-facts?pid=765324#pid765324

And here's your reply to it. Finding one example, a guy who rips Dalton to shreds all the time...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-It-s-time-to-face-the-facts?pid=767374#pid767374

Here's a poster that realizes i post plenty of positive stuff about Dalton. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Andy-loses-us-another-big-game?pid=761853#pid761853

Here's a post that very succinctly explains the question i was asking before you started making up shit about how i was saying "all that matters" when shooting down your and other's examples.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Andy-loses-us-another-big-game?pid=762607#pid762607

Now back to the misquotes and made up stuff. 

I don't know where the hell you came up with this. Mixon is widely regarded as a better RB than Dalton is a QB. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765728#pid765728

Here's a perfect post to highlight your hypocrisy. I used raw stats to show that Keenum was playing better than Dalton and you posted to disagree, citing some lesser player being better than Khalil Mack because he had more stats...yet, you argued and mocked me that Dalton had a better game than Brissett had against the Colts because DALTON HAD BETTER RAW STATS! You can't make this stuff up, folks. Well, Fred can...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765736#pid765736

And here's you going on about that damn Gopher again...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765738#pid765738
Sorry, just had to break up the monotony of all these posts. 

Back to the misquotes...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-When-do-we-make-the-switch-at-QB?pid=765749#pid765749
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737503#pid737503
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737505#pid737505
And here's another instance, in a long line of instances, of me explaining what i specifically was looking for.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737585#pid737585

And here i am saying that the types of gameS i'm looking for are the one's that elevate QBs in the eyes of commentators and fans. And your reply?...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737895#pid737895
"Single game"??? Who the **** said anything about a single game?

Here's some more of that bullshit. I said "overall great game", you know...where he plays well throughout? Not just in the first half? And you completely butcherd the post and make shit up.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=737897#pid737897

I said 'elevate QBs in other's eyes'. You changed it to...
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=738147#pid738147

"won't count". Your favorite made up word.
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=738346#pid738346

Ok, that's quite enough for one night and it's just posts from the Dalton sub-forum. There's tenfold in JN. You misquote, make up your own words and logic and build up strawmen like you own a damn farm with the worlds biggest cornfield. But after doing that to not only me, but several people on this forum, you turn right around and tell people to stop--or they can't--make(ing) stuff up. 

If you're still confused after all this, seek help because you have a clear pattern of all you've been accused of and i'm not going to continue to waste my time showing you stuff you said. 

I'll just end for now, with this...

This is just me being Nostradamus, as usual. 
http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Dalton-s-make-or-break-year?pid=738041#pid738041

(11-01-2019, 11:16 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: The real possibility, the Bengals are near or at a need for a full rebuild and the sooner they embrace that the better.  How quickly they tackle that and how well they do it we will only know in the next few years (so far it seems to be denial). If Finley somehow shows he can be a quality starting QB then that is just one less piece they need.  If not the rebuild gets even more complicated because right now the best players on this team are entering the years where their age will catch up with them and we have not seen much from many of the younger players.  So having to draft a new QB and placing a team around him will take even longer to get the team back to being competitive.  I'm not saying Finley is going to the answer but it would certainly benefit the Bengals if he somehow did light it up.  Just one less piece to replace in a team full of holes.

There are just too many missing pieces right now.  So many that having a quality QB on the roster if it is Finely, Dalton again or a top QB draft pick the Bengals need to do more at some point to build around that.

(11-01-2019, 12:36 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I think the worst outcome would be Finley being up and down the rest of this year but the Bengals thinking Finley can eventually develop into a starter and therefore not bother to take a QB early. To me, Finley has an 8-game tryout to knock it out of the park or a QB is being drafted early.

(11-02-2019, 07:35 AM)Bronxbengal Wrote: You can win in this league with an average QB.  You can’t win with a horrible line (see the past three years).  I don’t understand why there is a line of thought that a top pick for QB will solve all the problems.  Get the best o line.


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(11-02-2019, 07:47 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Does civil war among the fans have any affect on the team? I mean, it did only take 23 petition signatures to get Dalton benched, so maybe.

(11-02-2019, 02:53 AM)OswaldsLegacy Wrote: What'd I miss?

(11-02-2019, 07:35 AM)Bronxbengal Wrote: You can win in this league with an average QB.  You can’t win with a horrible line (see the past three years).  I don’t understand why there is a line of thought that a top pick for QB will solve all the problems.  Get the best o line.


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