(06-22-2020, 07:52 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Obviously not the games you are.. sure you are on the right station? Lol

(06-22-2020, 08:42 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: When healthy, John Ross is one of the most dangerous weapons we have. He led the NFL for a couple weeks last season in receiving yards, and has at least been productive with scoring TD’s.

Your boy Billy couldn’t even start on an OL full of scrubs.

(06-22-2020, 11:51 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Ok let me try to help you the best I can since you again don;t follow posts well

My comparison to the post was after 2 seasons for each... since Price has only played 2 seasons. 

Season 1 for each:  Can we just say a disaster for Ross.. Price started till he was hurt ( was not horrible as a rookie but not as expected either)

Season 2 for each:  Outside of a 7 tds.. Ross was not very good ( 21 catches playing 60% of the snaps.. that is bad)  .. Price did not recover well from injury lost his starting job at center to Hopson(who played the best on a bad line last year)  and was not able to break lineup at guard so a disaster for Price 

Look both have underperformed but you really do have blinders on or just bias in your love for Ross and potential if you say Ross was so much better than Price in each of their first 2 years...  

(06-22-2020, 11:51 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Ok let me try to help you the best I can since you again don;t follow posts well

My comparison to the post was after 2 seasons for each... since Price has only played 2 seasons. 

Season 1 for each:  Can we just say a disaster for Ross.. Price started till he was hurt ( was not horrible as a rookie but not as expected either)

Season 2 for each:  Outside of a 7 tds.. Ross was not very good ( 21 catches playing 60% of the snaps.. that is bad)  .. Price did not recover well from injury lost his starting job at center to Hopson(who played the best on a bad line last year)  and was not able to break lineup at guard so a disaster for Price 

Look both have underperformed but you really do have blinders on or just bias in your love for Ross and potential if you say Ross was so much better than Price in each of their first 2 years...  

(06-22-2020, 01:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: You'd be fine with the Bengals taking a $5.5 mill cap hit by cutting Ross? Cuz his contract this year is fully guaranteed whether he's on the team or not. May as well keep him, as he's still gonna be better at WR than someone like Mike Thomas, Stanley Morgan, or Damion Willis.

Also, you are talking about availability is what makes Erickson better than Ross at WR.
Let's look at their actual production over the past 2 years to see whether it matters if Erickson is more available or not...
Ross - 716 yards, 10 TDs
Erickson - 696 yards, 0 TDs

So even though Erickson has been available twice the number of games as Ross, Ross still outproduced him both in yards and TDs because Ross the better guy on offense.

If we're talking depth WRs (which we are), I'd rather keep the guy who can be a 1000+ yard guy if healthy over someone who would only get about half that if fully healthy.

(06-23-2020, 01:14 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’re completely delusional if you think Price was “not horrible as a rookie.” Again, you must be watching different games. Maybe ones where he was in a Buckeyes uniform, which is probably why you’re sticking up so much for the kid. He sure as hell has never been anything but horrible in the NFL.

As for the bold, ofc Ross’ rookie season was a disaster. Our wise and all knowing HC sat him after a fumble, and he never saw the ball again that year. That’s not entirely on him.

But it’s odd to me you make excuses for Price based off injuries, but don’t give Ross the same benefit. One guy clearly has the talent to play in the NFL if he can stay healthy (big if), and the other guy looks like he doesn’t.

And as far as only comparing two years, that’s just stupid. Ross has been around for 3. You have to look at a players entire body of work. Ofc he doesn’t look as good when you take out his best season to date. No player would.

(06-23-2020, 01:45 AM)Synric Wrote: John Ross was the highest scoring Wide Receiver in the first two games in Fantasy Football in 2019.

Billy Price had a couple of "solid" games but no where near a top level player.

Honestly I'm looking forward to Ross as a number 2/3 receiver because I belive while he isn't a high volume guy he is a play maker.

(06-23-2020, 10:34 AM)impactplaya Wrote: Billy Price has had opportunity to lock up the center
Positon and a starting OG spot.
It's not like he's had top shelf talent to beat out
At the OG postion.
John Miller , Alex Redmond...who am I missing
Hopkins is everything Price isn't. He's smart and physical.
Price isn't a,lock to make the roster. Right now he's a huge draft bust

The Bengals offensive minds just need to start
Being more creative with Ross. It's a copycat league
Not hard to figure out. Jet sweeps, jail break screens
Wildcat , rub routes.
How many WRS average a TD on every 4.9 catches ,
Or 18 YPC..not too many

(06-23-2020, 01:14 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’re completely delusional if you think Price was “not horrible as a rookie.” Again, you must be watching different games. Maybe ones where he was in a Buckeyes uniform, which is probably why you’re sticking up so much for the kid. He sure as hell has never been anything but horrible in the NFL.

As for the bold, ofc Ross’ rookie season was a disaster. Our wise and all knowing HC sat him after a fumble, and he never saw the ball again that year. That’s not entirely on him.

But it’s odd to me you make excuses for Price based off injuries, but don’t give Ross the same benefit. One guy clearly has the talent to play in the NFL if he can stay healthy (big if), and the other guy looks like he doesn’t.

And as far as only comparing two years, that’s just stupid. Ross has been around for 3. You have to look at a players entire body of work. Ofc he doesn’t look as good when you take out his best season to date. No player would.

(06-23-2020, 09:48 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well at least we know what your bar is for not having a disaster first season as the 9th pick in draft..  let me suit up for 3 games and not have a catch.. no that is not a disaster at all.. man you are really grasping here.. 

(06-23-2020, 10:34 AM)impactplaya Wrote: Billy Price has had opportunity to lock up the center
Positon and a starting OG spot.
It's not like he's had top shelf talent to beat out
At the OG postion.
John Miller , Alex Redmond...who am I missing
Hopkins is everything Price isn't. He's smart and physical.
Price isn't a,lock to make the roster. Right now he's a huge draft bust

The Bengals offensive minds just need to start
Being more creative with Ross. It's a copycat league
Not hard to figure out. Jet sweeps, jail break screens
Wildcat , rub routes.
How many WRS average a TD on every 4.9 catches ,
Or 18 YPC..not too many

(06-23-2020, 09:44 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Ross had an opportunity in his 2nd and #rd year to prove he was not fragile.  physically and mentally. did he ??  

(06-23-2020, 11:17 PM)jason Wrote: It may be a copycat league, and it's easy to wonder why they don't use Ross like a Tyreek Hill or something, but don't forget that Ross statistically had the worst hands in the league. There are way more problems with him than his usage, and play calling.

(06-23-2020, 11:35 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Did you see John Ross drop a pass in the end zone last year 
Did he drop a pass where he got past the defender ?
Did he drop a pass that cost the Bengals a Game in 2019? 
I got secret for ya....don't tell anybody ....
But Travis Kelce and Keenan Allen dropped passes last year too.

(06-23-2020, 09:43 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Both have been major disappointments... and you are adding last season.. compare them their first two seasons and little difference in lack of what they produced... that is my point.. you can;t say Ross is that much better after 2 years than Price.  and Ross lived up to his hurt status again in 3rd season.. 2 games over a 3 year span is not much to bank on.. especially when you miss 40 percent of the other games

(06-24-2020, 12:07 AM)jason Wrote: C'mon now... I know they drop passes too. John Ross has a drop rate of 12.5%... Kelce is sitting at 4.4%. Keenan... 4.7. Everybody drops passes... Not as often as John Ross does though.

You said "I got a secret for ya"... Lulz.