(12-20-2020, 03:44 PM)Destro Wrote: I remember hearing some sports talk show mention that people were looking for "anyone who had a cup of coffee with Sean McVay." Rams flashed and we picked out a "who is he" guy from their team. The proof is that he did not make the team any better.

"No body" is a stretch, but when it comes to true, blue chip coaches, Cincy is not that attractive, as the same for players. It was Parcells who had some quote about making the dinner and having some decisions when it came to the groceries. A team that didn't let Marvin Lewis, second only the Bill Belichick in NFL tenure, get some things he wanted, is telling. The small market of Cincy, with the reputation it has ( deserved or not ), may get some interest, but not the star power. Think the likes of Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Bruce Arians, Jon Gruden would even look at a job here?

Oh, they have Burrow. Coming back from a knee injury. And we can do whatever comparisons you like, but we just don't know how that may be going forward. A dumpster fire of an O-line, bad defense, family ownership that despite what you think, may only draft who they want. Small scouting department to help, and no matter how much we suck, they may not be motivated to make changes ( just like now ). FA tend to avoid this place. And before mentioning players who you have to google to find when they were a decent player, find where they were a top 20 prospect and they choose Cincy. When players say they want to go somewhere else and play for a winner or compete for a championship, that does not mean coming here.

Want a great coach? Convince them you will do whatever it takes to make the team great. When has Cincinnati done that? Even in the last few weeks? Falling into the #1OA pick in the draft is not that, BTW.

(12-20-2020, 07:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You accidentally cut off my post before it got to the question posed. So I cannot blame you for not answering it. 

Development came because he got better and led a team to the Super Bowl. 

I get it; you're mad that Zac is still our coach and the crappy job he's done to date., But none of your anger changes the fact that Zac was an "en vogue" hire when the Bengals took him and I assert another hot prospect would take this gig if given the chance.

(12-21-2020, 10:34 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: ZT was an "en vogue" hire to the Bengals only, not anyone else.  Heck, I never even heard of the dude prior to the media speculation that Cincy was pursuing him.  When I looked him up on the web I was shocked at his resume - or should I say lack of resume.  Absolutely zero skins on the wall.  

Did any other team even want to interview the guy?  And don't give me he was coaching in the SB.  Did any other team looking for a new HC that year express an interest?

(12-20-2020, 09:31 AM)BengalChris Wrote: So, because "nobody" wants to come to the Bengals, the fans should have to endure more years of this suck ass coaching staff?

NO!

Taylor has made the team worse, not better. This means the team is further away from a championship than it was two years ago. I guess Mike Brown should just give up on any championship notions for the remaining of his years? He should not.

Further more, coaches do come to the Bengals. You listed several who did and there are several who would come.

With Taylor it was the assistants who said no to working under him. That was a big red flag right there. The quality assistants don't want to work for Boy Wonder. That's pretty clear. Marvin had some good assistants. People wanted to work for him.

Taylor had free rein to bring in the assistants he wants, something Marvin didn't have. He was given the largest free agent budget the Bengals have ever spent. Yet, he still managed to f' it all up.

 

(12-21-2020, 10:50 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Taylor didn't exactly have the ability to bring in any coach he wanted in 2019, as he was the last HC hired and not until Feb.
But he definitely had the opportunity to replace any of the coaches this past offseason.

(12-21-2020, 10:50 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Taylor didn't exactly have the ability to bring in any coach he wanted in 2019, as he was the last HC hired and not until Feb.
But he definitely had the opportunity to replace any of the coaches this past offseason.

(12-21-2020, 11:01 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Flores coached in the same SB as Taylor. It's pretty common for guys who are going to be hired for HC jobs to line up their staffs before they are actually hired.

I thought he'd bring some of the Rams guys with him. He didn't. That was kind of telling too.

Taylor became HC Feb 4. Flores was hired Feb 6.

Frank Reich became the Colts HC Feb 11 in the year he was hired.

2 of those guys put together good staffs. 1 hired a staff of his friends and seems to be happy with them.

(12-21-2020, 11:01 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Flores coached in the same SB as Taylor. It's pretty common for guys who are going to be hired for HC jobs to line up their staffs before they are actually hired.

I thought he'd bring some of the Rams guys with him. He didn't. That was kind of telling too.

Taylor became HC Feb 4. Flores was hired Feb 6.

Frank Reich became the Colts HC Feb 11 in the year he was hired.

2 of those guys put together good staffs. 1 hired a staff of his friends and seems to be happy with them.

(12-21-2020, 02:21 PM)ochocincos Wrote: There's some validity that if given the choice of any HC gig, CIN would probably be near the bottom.
However, it's still one of 32 spots, so someone would at least be interested in coming in as CIN HC to build their resume before jumping to a bigger franchise.

(12-21-2020, 11:01 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Flores coached in the same SB as Taylor. It's pretty common for guys who are going to be hired for HC jobs to line up their staffs before they are actually hired.

I thought he'd bring some of the Rams guys with him. He didn't. That was kind of telling too.

Taylor became HC Feb 4. Flores was hired Feb 6.

Frank Reich became the Colts HC Feb 11 in the year he was hired.

2 of those guys put together good staffs. 1 hired a staff of his friends and seems to be happy with them.