(08-27-2022, 05:29 PM)pally Wrote: don't count on that one...from Paul Dehner in The Athletic

An opportunity was put in front of the second-year running back this month. Take a leap and the third-down job could be his. These last two days were his latest opportunity as he got repeated run with the first-team offense, often entering ahead of Samaje Perine.

Evans has been inconsistent. He still shows impressive flashes, most obviously with his strength as a receiver. But overall running the ball and with the area he most needed to take a step in pass protection, he hasn’t quite gotten to the desired level that would force the staff to give him the gig.

(08-28-2022, 11:05 AM)740Bengal Wrote: Carman needs cut.. simply does not want to play. Bottom line.

PFF Pass Blocking Grades from yesterday’s win over the #Rams:

? Trey Hill: 67.6 | 74.8 (true pass)
? Hakeem Adeniji: 59.1 | 62.2
? Devin Cocran: 56.4 | 78.9
? D’Ante Smith: 39.6 | 31.7
? Jackson Carman: 34.8 | 11.3
? Nathan Gilliam: 23.8 | 8.2

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) August 28, 2022

(08-28-2022, 12:38 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

PFF Pass Blocking Grades from yesterday’s win over the #Rams:

? Trey Hill: 67.6 | 74.8 (true pass)
? Hakeem Adeniji: 59.1 | 62.2
? Devin Cocran: 56.4 | 78.9
? D’Ante Smith: 39.6 | 31.7
? Jackson Carman: 34.8 | 11.3
? Nathan Gilliam: 23.8 | 8.2

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) August 28, 2022

Between his play, and his off the field baggage, I honestly wish they would just cut him at this point.

(08-28-2022, 12:50 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: your not serious are you ??  I know you were all in on the pick ( partly getting those extra picks that could work out on defense) so im surprised you actually would want him cut..  I don;t even support cutting him and you know where i stood on drafting him that high but I do think he needs another year to hope to improve or see if Pollack has the coaching to get him better.

(08-28-2022, 01:03 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I was never “all in” on Jackson Carman. He wasn’t even on my radar leading up to that draft. I wanted Eichenberg. I tried to get behind the pick once it was made, but he’s making it impossible at this point (the rape accusation certainly doesn’t help).

Carman has shown absolutely nothing in 2 years now. He looks lazy, disinterested, and couldn’t even beat out a 4th round rookie from a FCS school when they literally gave him every opportunity to take that spot.

(08-28-2022, 11:21 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Hardly seems a fair evaluation of Evans, unless the coaches can say he wasn't SUPPOSED to bounce outside and that led to the penalties, but he never really got a shot with the 1s and there were ridiculous penalties when he carried the ball, negating his yardage.  PFF showed good ratings on pass blocking as well for Evans.  

And how great does he have to look to bump Perine?  

(08-27-2022, 12:53 PM)Whatever Wrote: QB(2)-Burrow, Allen
RB(4)-Mixon, Perrine, Evans, Patrick*
TE(3)-Hurst, Sample, Moss*
WR(6)-Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Taylor, Morgan, Pryor*
C(3)-Karras, Hill, Gaillard
G(3)-Cappa, Volson, Carman
T(4)Collins, Williams, Smith, Prince*
DE(5)-Hubbard, Hendrickson, Ossai, Sample, Gunter*
DT(5)-Reader, Hill, Tupou, Carter, Shelvin*
LB(5)-Wilson, Pratt, ADG, Bailey, Johnston
CB(6)-Awuzie, Apple, Hilton, CTB, Flowers, Jalen Davis
S(4)-Bates, Bell, Hill, Anderson
LS-Harris
K-McPherson
P-Chrisman

* indicates a strong possibility of being knocked off the 53 by a waiver claim

(08-28-2022, 12:38 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

PFF Pass Blocking Grades from yesterday’s win over the #Rams:

? Trey Hill: 67.6 | 74.8 (true pass)
? Hakeem Adeniji: 59.1 | 62.2
? Devin Cocran: 56.4 | 78.9
? D’Ante Smith: 39.6 | 31.7
? Jackson Carman: 34.8 | 11.3
? Nathan Gilliam: 23.8 | 8.2

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) August 28, 2022

Between his play, and his off the field baggage, I honestly wish they would just cut him at this point.

(08-28-2022, 05:31 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I still think he showed some flashes yesterday. Same with Volson against the Giants. Speaking of Volson though wasn't his pass blocking grade pretty poor against the Giants? Not making the case for Carman just making the case to bring in someone else.

(08-28-2022, 10:20 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Brandon Allen apparently only makes $1.5 million. That's crazy low for a backup veteran.

(08-27-2022, 10:19 PM)pally Wrote: A couple of years ago the PS could be 10 players all with less than 3 years of service.  It is now 16 and allows for veteran players

(08-28-2022, 06:23 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: Brandon Allen ceiling is Jake Browing's floor. Jake 2nd year player Allen 6th year both had same stats basically so go with the youth and higher ceiling.

(08-28-2022, 05:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: This is great job Whatever. I think you nailed it even if I would keep Browning over Allen. I would keep Noah Spence as the
last End and cut Shelvin off the DT group. Shelvin has not impressed me at all since he has been here. Sad cause I liked the pick
initially

Oh wait, one other thing I would change. I would keep Allan George over Jalen Davis.

(08-28-2022, 05:41 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We should bring in someone else. I don't agree with those grades either. Thought both Carman and especially Gilliam
played much better then that lol

Ereck Flowers or trade for Isaiah Wynn. Need to bring in a vet of some kind in case.

(08-28-2022, 01:28 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: ok, but even though i was skeptical on his talent level in 2nd round, i would still hold out hope this year learning from the vets and maybe the lightbulb comes on before cutting him.. but i guess if a veteran cut is out there, i can see the support for cutting him though as bad as Smith is also performing i might look to cut him first...