(01-29-2024, 12:22 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I ultimately hope it is Zac as the head coach that finds a way to adapt when leading Pitcher and Pollack. During yesterday's Cheifs/Ravens game, when the Chiefs were in 3 TE sets, the announcers spoked to Reid's ability to adapt as his roster has changed. If Zac proves capable as Reid in this area then we'll continue to contend with a healthy Burrow at QB.

(01-29-2024, 01:13 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Our line has sucked since 2016 though....look at those bust draft picks. 

(01-29-2024, 12:34 PM)Whatever Wrote: The issue I have with this is that the Bengals coaches also do a good amount of scouting.  As the OL coach, it's his job to scout and recommend guys that fit his scheme and the offense.  For example, I remember an interview he did where he said that Tobin asked him to look at and see if he could use Orlando Brown Jr. and he was enthusiastically all for it.  

Wide zone heavy schemes require good athletes, but everything out of the guy's mouth is "glass eaters".  I wonder if he's prioritizing that "glass eater" trait(whatever that means) over the athletic tools he needs to run his preferred scheme in evaluations.  

However, the quickest, easiest run game fix is addressing the RB position.  Our backs leave so much yardage on the field it's not even funny, especially since they constantly face light boxes as teams sit back in 2 deep zone with their S's all game.  Getting a legit RB threat that can actually make teams pay for sitting light in the box would do a lot of good for this offense as it gradually moves towards getting better athletes as contracts expire.

(01-27-2024, 04:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Welll...We've tried high draft choices, we've tried top FAs, and they're not firing the Oline coach.

So, maybe our approach should be quit trying to fix it. 

(01-28-2024, 03:07 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: If we dont draft Defense all around, this team doesnt deserve to go to the playoffs. Lou deserves most of the picks this time around.

(01-29-2024, 03:54 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I think we saw a bit of that this year, with the heavier use of different TEs once Jake came in (all 4 were active for a number of weeks), so that there would be some extra blockers as Browning is not Joe in the pocket, as well as more varied use of RBs, also to help Browning (screens, keeping them in to chip more, etc.).

Most good coaches will adapt and I think Zac is great in that regards. Marv OTOH...


2016 was good still, with only Ogbuehi being the true weak link.

2017, things started to go downhill...

(01-29-2024, 05:09 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: 2016 was bad, Bodine was a mess

(01-29-2024, 05:15 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Bodine was never a mess, he was always passable in the grand scheme of things, but probably shouldn't have been starting.

(01-29-2024, 05:24 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I said on the whole.

Indeed: Ryan/Royle/'zerker was always right about him, but he was never as bad as perceived.

(01-29-2024, 03:54 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I think we saw a bit of that this year, with the heavier use of different TEs once Jake came in (all 4 were active for a number of weeks), so that there would be some extra blockers as Browning is not Joe in the pocket, as well as more varied use of RBs, also to help Browning (screens, keeping them in to chip more, etc.).

Most good coaches will adapt and I think Zac is great in that regards. Marv OTOH...

(01-29-2024, 03:54 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Yeah, the scheme fit evaluation is puzzling. Personally, I think if Cincinnati had a more talented backfield and operated more under center with heavy play-action, this line would be great. However, that's not really playing to Burrow's strengths, nor does Cincinnati have a strong backfield but that's another conversation. 

(01-29-2024, 04:58 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Really haven't tried this approach.  If we had, we would have a line with Thuney and a different LT.

The reality is that we have to get guys that significantly upgrade the team on the O-line like we have with the defense (Trey, Hilton, Vonn Bell, Chido, Reader).....

We've yet to get a guy with that kind of impact on our O-line - and it shows.

(01-29-2024, 05:05 PM)Destro Wrote: Fix the Offensive Line!!!!

*flips the table*
*runs screaming from the boardroom*

Anyway, can you believe we are the team of Andrew Whitworth, Willie Anderson and the All-Universe Anthony Munoz?

(01-29-2024, 11:40 AM)J24 Wrote: Ogbuehi didn't test do to injury, Fisher had a pretty good RAS, and Jonah had a bad performance( outside of 40)according to RAS . https://www.google.com/amp/s/ras.football/2020/01/04/jonah-williams-ras/%3famp 

Quote:Athletic with fluid movement and body control

(01-29-2024, 05:31 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I liked what I saw Zac doing with Burrow and the offense in the 49'ers game and I liked how he positioned Browning for success. I want that to be the theme in '24. I do wonder if we have a better RB1 if many of us would see Pollack in a different light.

(01-29-2024, 08:01 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Having a decent running game would make a lot of things look different.

(01-29-2024, 03:54 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I think we saw a bit of that this year, with the heavier use of different TEs once Jake came in (all 4 were active for a number of weeks), so that there would be some extra blockers as Browning is not Joe in the pocket, as well as more varied use of RBs, also to help Browning (screens, keeping them in to chip more, etc.).

Most good coaches will adapt and I think Zac is great in that regards. Marv OTOH...


2016 was good still, with only Ogbuehi being the true weak link.

2017, things started to go downhill...

(01-29-2024, 05:15 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Bodine was never a mess, he was always passable in the grand scheme of things, but probably shouldn't have been starting.

(01-27-2024, 07:14 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yeah, 2013-2023 has been pretty damn rough in terms of drafting:

T- Jonah Williams   1st
T- Cedric Ogbuehi   1st
T- Jake Fisher   2nd
T- Jackson Carman   2nd
T- D'Ante Smith   4th
T- Hakeem Adeniji   6th
T- Reid Fragel   7th

G- Cordell Volson   4th
G- Michael Jordan   4th
G- Tanner Hawkinson   5th
G- Christian Westerman   5th  
G- Trey Hill   6th 
G- Rod Taylor   7th

C- Billy Price   1st
C- Russell Bodine   4th
C- JJ Deilman   5th
C- TJ Johnson   7th