(11-08-2024, 02:49 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: And the Bengals are playing hardball with him on a contract.

(11-08-2024, 02:51 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not a serious franchise.

(11-08-2024, 01:28 PM)Wyche Wrote: I would have figured it was Gesicki.

(11-08-2024, 03:01 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They lost the SB because they didn't stop the other team's best player on offense or defense. They lost the AFCCG because they didn't stop the other teams best defensive player. They lost to the Ravens because they didn't find a way to utilize the team's best player(s). 

That's a failure in coaching that happens over and over again. 

(11-08-2024, 03:11 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yes!

And Burrow, with all his injuries may have 5-7 prime years left.

Chase probably has 3-5 years at an elite level.

Instead of wasting these resources, we should get a competent staff in now. Maybe Zac is an above average coach? But, we need an elite coach as we aspire for SBs.

(11-08-2024, 03:20 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Well, if they have any hopes of a SB, they're going to have to get a new coach. 5 year rule is up at the end of this season and what are the odds they win it all this year?

(11-08-2024, 03:01 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They lost the SB because they didn't stop the other team's best player on offense or defense. They lost the AFCCG because they didn't stop the other teams best defensive player. They lost to the Ravens because they didn't find a way to utilize the team's best player(s). 

That's a failure in coaching that happens over and over again. 

(11-08-2024, 10:27 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The other thing which frosted my flakes last night is when our new running back, Khalil Herbert, fumbled the ball on his first snap as a Bengal.  He was immediately brought to the sideline and benched the rest of the game.  That was idiotic. Herbert should have been given the very next ball as a way to build up his confidence.

(11-08-2024, 10:35 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: and Whitworth Fitz Shermam  all were proved wrong

(11-08-2024, 03:26 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Have to agree. Belichick took away other team's strengths when Brady and him were winning all those Super Bowls. 

That is what great coaches do. Neither Taylor nor Lou are great coaches. I like Taylor and think we can win a lot with him but the rest of 
the staff needs to be gone, we need a real GM and new coaches all across the board and Taylor needs to just step back and let a good OC
do his thing. Even if the Offense is really good right now, that is Burrow, Chase and the weapons.

(11-08-2024, 02:55 PM)Big Boss Wrote: "Can't pay Jessie because we gotta pay Tee."
"Can't pay Tee because we gotta pay Ja'Marr."
"Can't pay Ja'Marr because-"

Like I'm not the smartest guy on the block but I'm also not a ***** idiot.  I see what you're doing. XD

(11-08-2024, 11:20 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Yep, anyone who supported the "prevent Offense" thread after a WIN should be happy with the play calling last night.

I was one of the few that applauded the conservative play calling. I would have preferred if he was more conservative last night. 

But you know what they say "You can't please some people any of the time."

BTW no FG is certain with Maybe Mac this year 

(11-08-2024, 04:24 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We can win with Taylor IF we have an elite roster.

Burrow is playing at an MVP level and we're 4-6. Burrow has 24 TD's and 4 Int's on the year and we're 4-6.

(11-08-2024, 02:43 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'd have kicked it too.

I think my biggest problem with the 2pt try is that they let the playclock go all the way down and then took the timeout. I am firmly a believer in that if you go for 2, you are best off doing it up-tempo after the TD you got. The defense is reeling from giving up a TD, guys might be looking at who-let-who-get-open and thinking about the last play, and you are just immediately ready to take advantage of them reeling to get a quick conversion.

Between the playclock after the TD, the timeout, and then the playclock after the timeout, you're giving the defense over a full minute to catch their breath and collect themselves for the task at hand.

It's a bit like how the best time to try to take a deep shot is right after a turnover when the defense has to run on the field when they thought they were taking a break still, and might not be fully mentally checked in yet.

(11-08-2024, 11:08 AM)Wyche Wrote: I would not be surprised. It happened in the NBA. 

I didn't see the hands to the face, Gesicki was mauled, and I think Hudson was hit before the ball got there too.

(11-08-2024, 04:28 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I think Zac can win a lot, if we have a Top 15ish defense.  Burrow and Chase are simply that good.

(11-08-2024, 01:20 PM)Wyche Wrote: The only thing I didn't like from Joe were the two deep shots on 3rd/4th and 2. One he even checked to. Even then, he had Gesicki WIDE OPEN beyond the sticks for the first, and another check down that would likely have gotten the first. A lot of people complain about the short passes, but I think they weren't around when the 49er dynasty was doing those left and right as an extension of the run game. 

(11-08-2024, 04:37 PM)3wt Wrote: Totally.   I was really rankled when Gonzalez and Fitzmagic agreed that there was no real PI.  They said the Gesicki didn't count because Burrow wasn't throwing to him (though it was obvious defensive holding) and they said the hitting Hudson before the arrival of the ball was not actually hitting him before the arrival of the ball.   

But the face mask no call was unbelievable.   How do you ignore that??   Then again he was getting late hit all night long and they called it maybe once?  I felt like both our QB and our receivers were brutalized all night with impunity.

But then again their dbs were on our receivers (except Chase) like white on rice.   Our DBs trailed consistently 10 feet behind their receivers.

So frustrating.

But that last ball was a touchdown except for the PI.   And if they disagreed with that they had to absolutely blatant missed calls.   We should have won that game.

(11-08-2024, 04:44 PM)3wt Wrote: I was livid.  We were moving the ball and had men open.  Why go for the low percentage play twice!

Those two decisions were part of why we lost.  And that was Joe not Zach.