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RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Luvnit2 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: I figured he was gone for the season after this 3 on 1 sack. Pure lunacy, both on his part and on Taylor's part for having him out there.

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Sorry, I blame JB for this sack. He had multiple times to throw the ball away. He is a competitor and his mindset to make a play while heroic, it is also stupid especially in a preseason game. I love JB, but very stupid on his part and he admitted it in the 3rd quarter interview with sideline reporter from ESPN.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Sled21 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Sorry, I blame JB for this sack. He had multiple times to throw the ball away. He is a competitor and his mindset to make a play while heroic, it is also stupid especially in a preseason game. I love JB, but very stupid on his part and he admitted it in the 3rd quarter interview with sideline reporter from ESPN.

And it's the coaches job to sometimes protect the players from themselves. 

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Luvnit2 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: And it's the coaches job to sometimes protect the players from themselves. 

I disagree. You play scared and you will get hurt in my humble opinion. JB is a big boy and is accountable for his own decisions. ZT can't hold player's hands.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - rfaulk34 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: I figured he was gone for the season after this 3 on 1 sack. Pure lunacy, both on his part and on Taylor's part for having him out there.

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He's a football player. He likes to be hit.  Jerry

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - pally - 08-19-2025


  

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Millhouse - 08-19-2025

(8 hours ago)bengalfan74 Wrote: I'm not even sure with this D we can go 9-8 again? As good as I think our O will be (especially if we get another guard). We're not gonna score 45 points a game. The number required with this D.

At this point it seems the only hope is that Golden will be able to get something out of this D that Lou couldn't. If not, then in hindsight it looks like signing Tee instead of putting that money on the defense may not have been the best move for this season. Time will tell of course on that.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Nicomo Cosca - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Woulda, Coulda and Shoulda does us no good. We need to look forward now in my opinion. Let's sign Risner and my hope he is a better RG than Rutledge isin 2025.

It is very easy after any draft to be able to pick a better pick choice.  We have yet to play a real game with our rookies, in time we will see if Bengals picking Kinight was a good or bad draft decision.

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RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Synric - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)pally Wrote:   



Huh Rivers with a 50 from PFF pass block score. I'll have to go back and watch but he also allowed zero pressures on 32 pass block snaps. 

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Could have doubled up on the Georgia guards and been set for Burrow’s prime. Gaah

Or drafted a safety. 

Burks or Carter should be starting next to Wilson.

The vanilla excuse is BS. The 2nd/3rd team did not get gashed. Only the starters. 

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Sled21 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I disagree. You play scared and you will get hurt in my humble opinion. JB is a big boy and is accountable for his own decisions. ZT can't hold player's hands.

No one asked him to hold his hand. He should have been taken off the field.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Truck_1_0_1_ - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Synric Wrote: Huh Rivers with a 50 from PFF pass block score. I'll have to go back and watch but he also allowed zero pressures on 32 pass block snaps. 

I repeat what I wrote before, he looked awful when he came in, then looked better after that scoring drive.

His defender ran right by him on one play, I think it was a pass to Iosivas (may be wrong on that though).

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)pally Wrote:
  

Great stuff, pally. 

Knight, Battle, Slaton, and Newton at the bottom on D is cause for concern. Carter or Burks should be starting, but since Knight is Al's crush (he can rush the passer, too, apparently!), they won't. 

Sample can pass block, but his run blocking stunk. Grandy the opposite. Fant and McLaughlin more well rounded. 

Another good night for Fairchild. Mims as well. That portends well. OBJ & Karras doing what they do, pass blocking well. Run blocking not as well. 

Patrick did well. Shockingly, hyperbolic first takes were off. He came off injured. 

Still, if you buy Rivers as a roster lock, and I do: OBJ, Mims, and Ford as the tackles. Fairchild, Risner, and Rivers as guards, with Ford also giving cover. Karras + Lee/McLaughlin at C. That is 8. If youvtake another OT (thus admitting Rivers is not OT4), the there is not room for Patrick AND Volson, even if you keep 10 OL. Unless you keep Patrick as C2 and expose Lee and McLaughlin. 

Me, I like having 3 guys who can play C in my 53. So I keep Patrick. Be it as C2, OG3, or both. I figure out Lee/McLaughlin, OT4, and Volson next week. I suspect someone could go to IR/PUP. 

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025

(5 hours ago)Synric Wrote: Huh Rivers with a 50 from PFF pass block score. I'll have to go back and watch but he also allowed zero pressures on 32 pass block snaps. 

You can lose a rep without surrendering a pressure/hit/sack. Those are "good" losses. Small ones. 

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Soonerpeace - 08-19-2025

There are not a bunch of reads on all the psss plays. Joe is suppose to go to his first read and take no chances. He’s an adult. They have to make the early season count with this defenses

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Whatever - 08-19-2025

I saw that Fairchild leads all rookie OL with an 87.6 PFF grade. Good stuff. I don't expect him to maintain that through the regular season, as he'll see more reps against the 1's, but you still see a lot of reps against backup DL due to rotation. Looking promising.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025

(3 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: I saw that Fairchild leads all rookie OL with an 87.6 PFF grade.  Good stuff.  I don't expect him to maintain that through the regular season, as he'll see more reps against the 1's, but you still see a lot of reps against backup DL due to rotation.  Looking promising.

It is a huge, fantastic, amd much needed good sign. 

Of the early picks (Day1/2), Fairchild was the one who had to hit. We could replace Cappa in FA at RG ,but a Volson redux would be intolerable. 

If Knight struggles, Burks is there. And maybe Carter now, too. 

I never expected much from Stewart in year 1. So he is in all gravy territory.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Joelist - 08-19-2025

Looking at the film you see that a lot of the early defensive issues were of all things schematic, and mostly mental. not only did they play vanilla in terms of wrinkles but there was zero diagnosis and recognition going on - which is the disturbing part. You can play vanilla and still read plays and react correctly. Then of course DC on offense also opened up the playbook. and so you had ridiculous nonsense like us in a 4 man front with a cavernous gap in its center and only 2 linebackers....it would have been amazing NOT to get gashed on a run in that look. Sorry but they should have switched out of that stupid 4-2-5 look after one play. We have a large enough LB room to use 4-3-4 so use it.

Right around the middle of the second quarter the defense solidified. Part of it was Barrett Carter coming in a LB but also they went to a "heavier" look with some 4-3 in it. This took the easy runs away and forced passes - which got picked. So when we blast the defense remember they did not have a "Front 7" when the 1s were in - it was a "Front 6".

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - SunsetBengal - 08-19-2025

(4 hours ago)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: You can lose a rep without surrendering a pressure/hit/sack. Those are "good" losses. Small ones. 

The one that gets me is Ossai getting a 69 in run defense with a 27 in tackling. How does that compute? 

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - bengalfan47 - 08-19-2025

(8 hours ago)bengalfan74 Wrote: We're in serious trouble on D this season, to say the least.

The thought of Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry playing against this  defense is probably what teams like Bowling Green feel like when they have 
to play Ohio State. If this Keeps up the Ravens could not throw a pass and still put up 45.

RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - WeezyBengal - 08-19-2025

Good grade for Mckinley Jackson. He has looked REALL good in preseason. Goodberry did a film review on him and theres a ton of positive stuff. 

Hope him and Jenkins continue to pan out.