(10-30-2024, 01:35 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: i've said this before, but why re-sign pratt and davis-gaither when neither of them are game changers? Those are 2 guys you can draft to replace. A guy like Bates you just cant replace. Hell, all Reader needed was a 1 year prove it deal. I just dont get it. 

And it will be a disastrous mistake if they sign tee. Thats even more money not being used to help multiple roster holes, and it would go to a guy who plays 11 games per season. What happens when he gets injured again? Oh, well you put all that miney into one guy, so the rest of the roster still stinks, and they end up losing 90% of those games he isnt playing.

and back to the whit situation. Why would they fracture the relationship with him by telling him to his face that "We dont want you" ? Like, I get if they didnt want to re-sign whit, but to tell him to his face after mike tells him something different? And then they do try to extend him after 2016, but Whit remembers how the blackburns told him to **** off, and now theyre shit out of luck. I thought smart business people dont burn bridges?

(10-30-2024, 04:54 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You have to actually GET to the playoffs to make any noise though. And if we continue to be absolutely terrible inside the division that will always be an uphill battle. Trust me, I wish we were in pretty much any other division the way we’re built lol.

As far as the rest of them not doing much in the playoffs in a while it might sound like an oversimplification but just look at the QB situations. The Steelers were trotting Ben out there into his late 30’s then had Mason Rudolph last year. Lamar seems to choke every January like clockwork. Cleveland should have never moved on from Baker as he’s won playoff games for both them and Tampa at this point. But they’re the Browns so ***** up at QB is what they do.

But I get it, 5-2 is 5-2. It’s going to buy Zac a hell of a long leash with this ownership. At the very least he needs to make some major changes like giving up play calling or firing Lou if they keep trending in the wrong direction.

(10-30-2024, 07:38 PM)jj22 Wrote: This is why the FO should turn their ire to Tobin. Tobin’s screwed up the plan by not being able to draft the players to replace these stars. That’s why they  keep kicking the can. Hoping, wishing and praying the draft pick meant to replace  a star steps up. They haven’t. 

That’s not the fault of the coaches. Zac’s recent enough playoff success proves he can coach. It’s not just the teams (Bills) that you can say wet the beds in the playoffs. It’s coaches too. And 5-2 rather folks like it or not buys time. It could be worse. If winning a SB is really the goal. 

Zac’s the one that still has the power if he’d wield it. And he should. If the plan is to pay certain positions and rely on the draft to develop replacements then you have to draft good. Tobin is the fall guy. He should be. And Zac if he had any pull should remember he is the best they are probably going to get at HC, and he needs to threaten to quit! If only a power play to restructure the scouting department. 

Who else can force it if not Zac at this point? 

(10-30-2024, 06:48 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Tobin ain’t leaving. We just have to pray they invest more into the scouting department

(10-30-2024, 06:59 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: HC. We need toughness in our organization, it's gotta start at the top, and Zac sure as hell is not going to do it.

Tired of getting manhandled by our division in the run game and all the talk about "we gotta take what they give us" and other passive phrases where the other teams get to dictate our gameplans to us. He took the Titans to the AFCC with Ryan Tannehill who I think we can all agree is worse than Joe Burrow.

(Yesterday, 02:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Completely understand. I hate being the finesse team of the Division myself. Would be all for Vrabel at HC to bring back physicality to 
this team. What is strange is we actually were physical in our Super Bowl run which honestly gives me hope if Zac sticks around and we
add all new coaches around him.

(Yesterday, 03:22 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: We'd still start the season 0-2. So we would still have to go 10-5 (.667 win%) to get to 10 wins while every other team has to go 10-7 (.588 win%) to do the same.

6 seasons and he still hasn't figured out how to get his team ready for the season. He pulled the whole "we're going to do things differently this offseason" heading into this year and then Myles Murphy got hurt in a joint practice and they completely shut down and reverted into protect-at-all-costs-mode. 

So even if he says anything different, I refuse to believe him anymore because he simply can't change his stripes. He's going to have a baby soft leadup to the season, his team will look like crap the first couple weeks because of it, and he WILL abandon the run and just throw the ball out of the shotgun. No matter what he says, it's Lucy with the football or the scorpion trying to convince the frog to give it a ride.