(01-04-2019, 02:00 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Why aren't we seeing the same level for the other external candidates?

(01-04-2019, 02:03 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: THE most important thing to remember is a HC is NOT a coordinator - he is the overall team leader, he does not call plays or build the game plan. He hires the coordinators to do that. HC is a different role, this is obvious in many respects but needs to be stated.

The candidates will be out to prove that they can lead, they can develop a plan for the type of systems and players they want, they can motivate, they can game manage and make tough decisions where needed.

(01-04-2019, 01:41 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Until you realize the offense this year is better than it's ever been in KC. First place in both yards and points. I know this year was the year of Mahomes, but Bieniemy must be doing something right.

What I'm really starting to get concerned with is why people are being so critical of this guy. They are trying to nitpick every single little thing he has and hasn't done. Are the alternatives really any better? What about the alternatives would give you more confidence over Bieniemy?
Vance Joseph - Wasn't elite as a DC in Miami, bad as HC in Denver
Bill Lazor - Offense started hot but really took a nosedive after Green and Eifert went down. Shouldn't we be worried about his ability to adjust in games?
Todd Monken - He did well with the Bucs as OC but he was not good as a HC in college, going 13-25 at Southern Miss.
Zac Taylor - Currently QB coach with Rams but wasn't QB coach in 2017, he was assistant WR coach. So he can't really be labeled as the QB whisperer for Jared Goff since Goff broke out in 2017, not 2018.
Shane Waldron - Currently TE coach with Rams, but they haven't gotten good production out of their TEs, have they? He's also their pass game coordinator, but the Rams' offense is driven arguably through Todd Gurley.
Darrin Simmons - Been good as ST coach with Cincinnati but I don't think anyone would get excited about seeing a ST coach become the HC. Not that it'd be the wrong move, but it would be a letdown for many of the fans.

See? Anyone can nitpick any of these candidates.

And I'd personally be stoked for Bieniemy to come to Cincinnati. He's been a RB coach and OC his whole coaching career. Given we want to see an emphasis on the running game, wouldn't Bieniemy be a perfect fit to man the helm? I don't really see him being any worse option than the rest of the guys listed.

(01-03-2019, 03:42 PM)Wyche Wrote: Don't forget Pederson either.......

(01-03-2019, 03:52 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Naggy called plays vs Eric who hasn't done that yet.

(01-04-2019, 09:18 AM)Au165 Wrote: It's funny you say that I don't think one of those teams have a better D line than us, I could maybe see Eagles but that's close. The issue is they have better second level coverage linebackers than us by far. When your second level takes away the quick dump off passes it let's your front get home. I think fixing the LBing group has to be priority one this off season even more so than O line because most of our defensive issues are related to the complete shit show at LB.

(01-04-2019, 04:25 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: I think we tend to overstate the value of guys like Dunlap and Geno...I love those guys, but does their game elevate at the most crucial times in the biggest games?  And if those teams don't have a better D line than us, do you pin it all on the LBs?

Regardless, the synergy of a good defense is clearly not happening on this team.  And I have stated numerous times that I don't think our scheme gets the most out of our players.  I think it saps their energy, if anything.  

(01-04-2019, 04:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Would rather have Burfict coaching the LB's.

(01-04-2019, 04:34 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'll pass on Joey Porter 2.0

(01-04-2019, 01:41 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Until you realize the offense this year is better than it's ever been in KC. First place in both yards and points. I know this year was the year of Mahomes, but Bieniemy must be doing something right.

What I'm really starting to get concerned with is why people are being so critical of this guy. They are trying to nitpick every single little thing he has and hasn't done. Are the alternatives really any better? What about the alternatives would give you more confidence over Bieniemy?
Vance Joseph - Wasn't elite as a DC in Miami, bad as HC in Denver
Bill Lazor - Offense started hot but really took a nosedive after Green and Eifert went down. Shouldn't we be worried about his ability to adjust in games?
Todd Monken - He did well with the Bucs as OC but he was not good as a HC in college, going 13-25 at Southern Miss.
Zac Taylor - Currently QB coach with Rams but wasn't QB coach in 2017, he was assistant WR coach. So he can't really be labeled as the QB whisperer for Jared Goff since Goff broke out in 2017, not 2018.
Shane Waldron - Currently TE coach with Rams, but they haven't gotten good production out of their TEs, have they? He's also their pass game coordinator, but the Rams' offense is driven arguably through Todd Gurley.
Darrin Simmons - Been good as ST coach with Cincinnati but I don't think anyone would get excited about seeing a ST coach become the HC. Not that it'd be the wrong move, but it would be a letdown for many of the fans.

See? Anyone can nitpick any of these candidates.

And I'd personally be stoked for Bieniemy to come to Cincinnati. He's been a RB coach and OC his whole coaching career. Given we want to see an emphasis on the running game, wouldn't Bieniemy be a perfect fit to man the helm? I don't really see him being any worse option than the rest of the guys listed.

(01-04-2019, 04:34 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'll pass on Joey Porter 2.0

(01-04-2019, 04:53 PM)Whatever Wrote: In fairness, Burfict never gang beat and robbed another player.

(01-04-2019, 04:34 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'll pass on Joey Porter 2.0