(05-15-2019, 02:27 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Jim Miller and Pat Kirwin are going to be talking AFC North pass rushing today and I'm sure they'll have Cincy at the bottom. To make matters worse they'll likely have that "Dave from Cincy" dude call in (he has to be a prop) and make the fanbase look more foolish clueless. While everyone will be slobbing over Pitt and Cleveland.

There's a chance I'll call in and try to make a case for use, but I need your help. Give me some ammo. AKA....why we were last in sacks last year, what additions we have going forward, does the coaching change make a difference, ect.. I know Fred brings up something about Hubbard last year. Or give me something that will cause the other AFC North teams to fail.

So what do we have? Also I don't have to be the one to call in. If anyone else plans to, wants to. The number is 1-800-NFL-KICK and the show starts at 3 PM on Sirius channel 88. If you call in do it early; as you'll be on hold for a while if you can get through.

BTW, if "Dave from Cincy" is a board member...no offense.

(05-15-2019, 02:33 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Bring up that Dunlap has been top 15 (and top 10, for the majority of his career) for pressures per rush since he became the FT starter in 2013 and that Geno is a HOFer.

Mention that darkhorse would be Lawson, who could possibly be our best, pure pass rusher.

Yes, Hubbard will make strides too.

That's all I got.

(05-15-2019, 02:34 PM)Wyche Wrote: It's been discussed previously, but one has to wonder how much of the lack of pass rush had to do with the middle of the field being basically uncovered by such poor LB play.

(05-15-2019, 02:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I think Lawson will be the big bullet. His injury last year hurt, his rookie year he was the only Rookie Edge Rusher to earn a "triple double" 10 sacks, 11 hits, 38 hurries. I'll also look to see how/if our production fell of last year after he went down

(05-15-2019, 02:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Replacing our full-time RDE who only had 9 sacks in the last 3 years should help.

(05-15-2019, 02:34 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: It's been discussed previously, but one has to wonder how much of the lack of pass rush had to do with the middle of the field being basically uncovered by such poor LB play.

(05-15-2019, 03:59 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Here is a stat you might want to consider-
When Lawson played 45% or more in a game the Bengals were 4-0. Also the pass rush was better in the 4 games 12(per 16 game pace 48) sacks and 36 ( 144 QB hits). All stats by pro football reference.

In games where he played 30% or less Bengals were 2-10, 47 QB hits( 64 hits per 16 game pace), and 22 sacks(29 per 16 games).

(05-15-2019, 05:24 PM)Synric Wrote: If Sam Hubbard can turn into a 10 sack guy it would be huge for the defense because he will be on the field in first and second downs. Hubbard might not have the quickest first step but he has great hands it's hard for offensive linemen stay on him.

Also guys like Ryan Glasgow, Rennell Wren, and Andrew Brown (injured early last year) could be pieces in the middle.

The only guy I left out is Jordan Willis because I believe he has alot of physical traits but no bend...I think he could be a decent rusher in the nickle at Defensice Tackle.

(05-15-2019, 04:29 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Hopefully the scheme change helps. Last year while Austin was running things, it appeared the d-line was held to doing mush-rush. Basically rush the passer within your lane and don’t let the QB break contain. I’d like to see guys like Dunlap, Lawson and Hubbard have more freedom to improvise and use multiple moves.

(05-15-2019, 05:16 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I wonder if some of that has to do with him being used in pass rushing situations and when you're behind the opponents run a lot.

Still...Lawson does need to be on the field A LOT.

(05-15-2019, 02:34 PM)Wyche Wrote: It's been discussed previously, but one has to wonder how much of the lack of pass rush had to do with the middle of the field being basically uncovered by such poor LB play.