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Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - KillerGoose - 06-19-2022 I have been working on gathering a wide variety of data for some small analytical projects I have been working on this off-season. So far, I have posted the results of two of these analyses to this board, linked here and here. Today, we are going to be doing the same exact thing, but we are looking at wide receivers. We are going to talk about who has had the best individual season in franchise history, and who is the best career wide receiver in franchise history. There is mathematical backing behind this, but it is all for fun - this isn't meant to END ALL ARGUMENTS (not that I could do that anyway) but I will say that the results aren't far off of what I was expecting. Which, is nice. Let's just begin by saying this took FOREVER. Guys, I have been working on this for weeks. I have essentially built a workbook of all NFL receiving statistics going back to 1968. That aggregation and organization took long enough by itself. Then, when I finally finished that, I had to do all of my calculations. I did not want to do that by hand, so I chose not to. I wrote a program to go through the Excel workbook and calculate all of the data for me. The reason being is that I wanted to filter for only WR's only, so going page-by-page, filtering and inserting the formulas was just too tedious. Now, in the end, automating that process may have taken me just as long as it would have by hand due to little bugs and some unfamiliarity with the library I used, but... Alright, you don't give a shit about any of that. Let's get to the list. Just like before, I will post some methodology at the bottom for those interested. Let's jump into looking at who had the best individual season in franchise history. There are three metrics we are looking at to define this; receptions, yards and touchdowns. Pretty simple. We have to keep it simple because older NFL data doesn't track some of the metrics we are used to (targets, for example). With that explained, the best individual season in franchise history goes to... Ja'Marr Chase. That's for real, folks. Chase came in as a rookie and had the best season a wide receiver has ever had in franchise history. With a statline of 81 catches for 1455 yards and 13 TDs, he razzled and dazzled to the top. This time last year, arguments were raging about Sewell vs. Chase, whether it was the right pick or not and if it isn't apparent by now, Chase was the right pick (dammit Goose, here we go again). A lethal offensive weapon, he already has the makings of a top five WR after his rookie year, and it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he could be challenging for the top spot in just a couple of seasons time. Here is a look at the top 10 seasons in franchise history, as defined by my analysis.
Best Overall Wide Receiver - Career
....yeah? Collinsworth is the 2nd best receiver in franchise history? Over Green? And Pickens? Curtis? Apparently so, yes. At least with this methodology. Collinsworth didn't have any real eye popping seasons, but he was just consistently good. For most of his career, if he was healthy, he was going to get you right around 1,000 yards and between five and eight touchdowns. Even for the time period, this wasn't crazy, but the consistency was good enough to land him at the #2 spot. Pickens had a fantastic mid-career but disappointing beginning and end. Here is a crazy fact for you; Carl Pickens won offensive rookie of the year in 1992 on 26 catches for 326 yards and ONE touchdown. I envy no one that had to rank these guys that year. Methodology - So, this part will be fairly short, I think. This is using Z-Score, just like the other two were. We are wanting to era adjust and I think this is one of the best methods of doing so. For those who don't remember, Z-Score is a figure we calculate in order to figure out how much better or worse a particular value is from the average of a population. You might remember that earlier in the post, I said we are using receptions, yards, and TDs. So, for each season, I calculated the average for each of those three categories and then calculated the standard deviation. From there, we can use the players metrics from that season to figure out how they compared to the rest of the league during that time. Z-Score tells you how many standard deviations a value is from the average. A Z-Score of 1 is pretty good. Not elite, but pretty good. A Z-Score of 2 is elite category. This player is dominating if they are putting up numbers like this. A Z-Score of 3 is ridiculous, and not only the best in any given year but likely one of the best seasons, ever. Anything higher than that would be historic and unprecedented. For example, Randy Moss had a touchdown Z-Score of 4.55 in 2007 when he set the record. Jerry Rice had a touchdown Z-Score of 5.23 in 1987, when he scored 22 touchdowns. So, yeah, ridiculous seasons. How I ended up ranking these players was by weighting each of the three categories. There is no real mathematical backing behind the weights, just trying to line up what I thought fit right. The weights, in order from heaviest to lightest go...
And that's it! Happy to answer questions or provide more info if requested. Thanks for reading. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - fredtoast - 06-19-2022 How did you use z-scores for career numbers? Or did you just add up the individual season z-scores? RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - fredtoast - 06-19-2022 I realize that no one mathematical formula is perfect, but I think Eddie Brown had one of the best seasons in Bengal history in 88. I am sure it did not make your list because he only had 53 receptions, but his 24.0 average per catch is one of the highest ever in the league, and his 1273 and 9 tds are high on the Bengals all-time list. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-19-2022 I love the vindication when I get into a discussion about Curtis NOT being the best receiver in team history (and not even close, going by Goose's methodology). Many of us still say Chad is the best ever and this backs it up; I can only imagine if he didn't leave after 2010... Great stuff, Goose! I'm sure after 5 seasons or so, ESPECIALLY with Joe throwing to him, Ja'Marr will be high up on the list. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - bengalfan74 - 06-19-2022 I was surprised by two things 1. I guessed Chad or AJ would have had the best single season. 2. I never would have guessed Collinsworth would be 2nd best career. Chase very easily could end up our best WR off all time. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - jason - 06-19-2022 (06-19-2022, 10:18 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I have been working on gathering a wide variety of data for some small analytical projects I have been working on this off-season. So far, I have posted the results of two of these analyses to this board, linked here and here. Today, we are going to be doing the same exact thing, but we are looking at wide receivers. We are going to talk about who has had the best individual season in franchise history, and who is the best career wide receiver in franchise history. There is mathematical backing behind this, but it is all for fun - this isn't meant to END ALL ARGUMENTS (not that I could do that anyway) but I will say that the results aren't far off of what I was expecting. Which, is nice. Ja'Marr is gonna challenging for the top spot in the league this year. Adams will fall off a bit with Carr... I think Chase's main competition this season will be his old college teammate in Minnesota. Edit... Annnd I totally forgot about Kupp. He'll be right up there too. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - bfine32 - 06-19-2022 (06-19-2022, 11:57 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I love the vindication when I get into a discussion about Curtis NOT being the best receiver in team history (and not even close, going by Goose's methodology). I too consider Chad as the best of all time, but we must remember the defense could molest the WR in Isaac's day. If he was playing in today's rules with his world-class speed, exceptional hands, and elite size; he quite possibly could eclipse Chad's numbers RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - BFritz21 - 06-19-2022 And think that Chase was a lineman holding their block for a split-second longer to give Burrow enough time to throw him the game-winning touchdown. Chase will destroy all of these records and no one will even dare to question who the GOAT is. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-19-2022 Wild seeing Brandon Lafell on there... RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - Whatever - 06-19-2022 Interesting study, but it doesn't seem to account for QB play or injuries. I would have liked to have the Z score as a per game statistic instead of a full season, as not doing so heavily weights the ratings towards the players that were able to stay healthy, not necessarily the best players. For example, Tyler Boyd is #4 on the All Time list with only 2 1000 yard seasons in 6 years and having never had a double digit TD season. Compare that to Carl Pickens, who had 4 1000 yard seasons and 3 double digit TD seasons in 8 years as a Bengal with worse QB play. I mean, Boyd has 24 TD's for his career, while Pickens had 17 TD's in '95 alone. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - motoarch - 06-19-2022 Wow. Boyd is where? That's the one that surprises most. I love Boyd but wtf? Great post btw. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - impactplaya - 06-19-2022 I think Killer Goose did a awesome job and should be Commended. The Bengals have had a rich history of DRAFTING WRs. It's so hard to pick who is the best etc etc I think it's important to keep.in mind the era, the QB and his Value to the team success Issac Curtis may never get the credit he is due From 1973 to 76, he was a Top 10 NFL WR. But when Kenny got hurt in 77 and his play Went down In the years after ,Curtis's numbers suffered Then when Collinsworth got drafted , Curtis became The Number #2 WR. Danny Ross affected Ike's targets Also I think Carl Pickens will be always under rated in Bengals History. It's easy to forget how dominant he was in a 2 ,3 year Span. If memory serves me correct , the Bengals had no effective running game to balance the offense Defenses knew Carl and Darnay were the offense. You don't score 16 TDs in one year by accident RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - Housh - 06-19-2022 I don’t need to see stats. It’s Chad Johnson. He is the best WR we ever had. If AJ gave us more years then he’d probably be it but Chad is the best. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - WeezyBengal - 06-19-2022 (06-19-2022, 11:59 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I was surprised by two things Honestly, and I know it sounds crazy after just one year, but I'd say Chase is already up there. We wouldn't have made the run and Super Bowl appearance we had if it weren't for Chase. I think you have to take Super Bowl, playoff wins, etc into account when ranking players. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - WeezyBengal - 06-19-2022 (06-19-2022, 11:04 PM)Housh Wrote: I don’t need to see stats. It’s Chad Johnson. I agree with this. Chad brought both tangibles and intangibles to the team that made him so damn good. People forget just how awesome he was. Such a beast. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - KillerGoose - 06-20-2022 (06-19-2022, 05:26 PM)Whatever Wrote: Interesting study, but it doesn't seem to account for QB play or injuries. I would have liked to have the Z score as a per game statistic instead of a full season, as not doing so heavily weights the ratings towards the players that were able to stay healthy, not necessarily the best players. For example, Tyler Boyd is #4 on the All Time list with only 2 1000 yard seasons in 6 years and having never had a double digit TD season. Compare that to Carl Pickens, who had 4 1000 yard seasons and 3 double digit TD seasons in 8 years as a Bengal with worse QB play. I mean, Boyd has 24 TD's for his career, while Pickens had 17 TD's in '95 alone. So, I spent some time this morning gathering the results for per game numbers. Overall, I agree with you. I originally started down this path, but I ended up deciding against it and going the way that I did. Here are the results...
Finally, Ross at 10th is a big lul result. Darnay Scott comes in at 11th, so he would really fit that 10th spot. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - KillerGoose - 06-20-2022 (06-19-2022, 10:26 AM)fredtoast Wrote: How did you use z-scores for career numbers? Yep. More accurately, I just averaged them up but yes, it is an aggregation of individual seasons. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-20-2022 (06-19-2022, 11:04 PM)Housh Wrote: I don’t need to see stats. It’s Chad Johnson. Agree and I wasn't the biggest Chad fan especially when he changed his name but he was the crispest route runner and best toe tapper I think I have ever witnessed in all of football. AJ had the talent to be better but injuries prevented it. Ja'Marr could be better though and I truly hope and believe he will be but as of now Chad is our best WR in franchise history. Just wish he was more clutch like Housh, Ja'Marr and Boyd are. Chad didn't seem to show up in the biggest moments when we really needed him to, that was Housh at that time. RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - ochocincos - 06-20-2022 (06-19-2022, 03:33 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: And think that Chase was a lineman holding their block for a split-second longer to give Burrow enough time to throw him the game-winning touchdown. Unless Chase leaves in FA to become the highest-paid WR in the league RE: Best WR in franchise history - Analysis - ATOTR - 06-20-2022 (06-19-2022, 10:18 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I have been working on gathering a wide variety of data for some small analytical projects I have been working on this off-season. So far, I have posted the results of two of these analyses to this board, linked here and here. Today, we are going to be doing the same exact thing, but we are looking at wide receivers. We are going to talk about who has had the best individual season in franchise history, and who is the best career wide receiver in franchise history. There is mathematical backing behind this, but it is all for fun - this isn't meant to END ALL ARGUMENTS (not that I could do that anyway) but I will say that the results aren't far off of what I was expecting. Which, is nice. Brandon Lafell over Darnay Scott. Interesting |