(12-15-2015, 04:09 PM)milksheikh Wrote: They gave up 3 sacks with McCarron in..

If we want McCarron to succeed... We will absolutely NEED to protect him and keep him clean just like we did w/ Dalton (most of the time).

(12-15-2015, 04:11 PM)Junglejuice Wrote: People forget besides the quick release Dalton is def upper tier mobile.

McCarron looked like a statue back there.
Our line is good but we will def be missing the take off for a first down element we have enjoyed all year.

(12-15-2015, 04:10 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: They also gave up 3 sacks in the previous game against the Steelers with Dalton in....

(12-15-2015, 04:14 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Pretty sure 2 of them were coverage sacks that week. I havent rewatched this game yet but I think at least one was holding the ball too long

(12-15-2015, 04:16 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: I was at the game so I couldn't tell you. It's a different view point at the game rather than on TV

(12-15-2015, 04:02 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: With Dalton out we are going to see how much he actually helps the offensive line. It worries me because I have always thought our offensive line looks a lot better than what it is because of Dalton. I still think we have a good offensive line, but I don't know if it will even look like a top 10 OL anymore. We can only wait and find out, but I think people are overlooking this a little too much.

(12-15-2015, 05:52 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Bengals are 3rd in the league in yards per pass, but 23rd in pass attempts.

Bengals are 15th in yards per rush, but 9th in rush attempts.

And people still want to bash Hue for not running the ball more????????

(12-15-2015, 06:00 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Because of when those plays are called, not how many.

Wolf always brings up a great point, how often has Hue tried to force a pass to Fisher this year inside the 10? 5?
The answer is too many and it's basically a punted down. 

People want more runs inside the 10. Fewer pass attempts to Fisher. 
The screen to Gio is another good example. No need for that there. Just run it in that situation. 

(12-15-2015, 06:53 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is the problem with that plan.  Through 12 games the Bengals have had first down inside the 10 yard line 25 times.  We have ran the ball 19 of those 25 times, but only have 3 runs longer then 2 yards (and one of those 3 was a 5 yards run by Dalton against the Cardinals).  Two of the runs that went for 2 yards or less were tds (Hill against the Raiders and Cards) but mostly we were not very effective running the ball in that situation.  Throwing the ball we were 3-6 for 2 tds.

We have had 18 second downs inside the 10, and here is where we throw the ball more.  We were 6-11 for 5 tds. We ran the ball 7 times, but only 4 of those gained more than 2 yards (again one of them was a 5 yards td run by Dalton).

We have had 9 third downs inside the 10.  We ran the ball 3 times with Dalton scoring 2 tds and Hill getting stuffed once for a 3 yard loss.

So the next time you hear someone say "No need to throw the ball.  Just run it in." remind then that out of 24 carries by our RBs inside the 10 we only have 5 that gained more than 2 yards and 5 that went for zero or a loss of yardage.

(12-16-2015, 02:36 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: The Bengals are tied for 2nd with most rushing touchdowns within the 10 yard line (Carolina Panthers also have 11)

Hill also scored all 8 of his touchdowns within the 10 yard line.
Dalton scored 3 of those touchdowns within the 10 yard line as well.

Hill is tied for the most rushing touchdowns within the 10 yard line (DeAngelo Williams is also tied with 8).

So for a team that struggled by getting into the end zone by running it, we have someone who is tied for leading the league in rushing TDs within the 10 yard line. And an added 3 more touchdowns thanks to Andy Dalton.

That's 11 rushing touchdowns within the 10 yard line. 19 teams have less than 11 rushing touchdowns total. 2 more teams have 11 rushing touchdowns.

So, going by your numbers, 11 of our 24 carries inside the 10 have gone for touchdowns. Almost 50% of our runs have gone for touchdowns inside the 10.

We're not bad at all. We're one of the best.

So next time someone says we should "Just run it in", remember, there's close to a 50% chance we will.

(12-15-2015, 04:09 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: We still have a top line. The main thing Dalton did was his quick release. Something that McCarron is going to have to work on. Timing is everything in this league and McCarron show some struggles with it early on. A full week of practice is certainly going to help him though.

(12-16-2015, 01:42 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Which makes those awful fades to Fisher that much worse