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Defensive Issues - THE PISTONS - 10-06-2024
To me, the defensive issues aren't scheme. The line is bad
This hurts LB play. And the safeties are slow and bad. And our CBs are young and not that good CTB shouldn't be a #1 CB.
We miss Reader and Bates.
Our defensive draft picks haven't worked out.
Carter was a 3rd Round pick. Waived.
Murphy, Hill, etc are mediocre so far.
We blitz, we get beat with throws. We don't blitz, we get no pressure.
Then, we can't stop the run so we have to play 1 dimensional guys like Guy that get no rush.
I'm not a fan of Lou, but there's only so much you can do when your talent level is bad.
RE: Defensive Issues - Gdale_Bengal - 10-06-2024
Them not putting enough early picks and signing enough veteran line help has almost single handedly destroyed this defense.
RE: Defensive Issues - THE PISTONS - 10-06-2024
(3 hours ago)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Them not putting enough early picks and signing enough veteran line help has almost single handedly destroyed this defense.
Well, the picked Murphy and Jenkins and Carter high. Those guys just aren't players yet.
RE: Defensive Issues - THE PISTONS - 10-06-2024
It's hard to replace a DJ Reader with a rookie. Just like it was hard to replace Whitworth.
RE: Defensive Issues - Nicomo Cosca - 10-06-2024
(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to replace a DJ Reader with a rookie. Just like it was hard to replace Whitworth.
They miss Bates far more than Reader, and I was a huge Reader guy. The defense fell apart when Bates left.
RE: Defensive Issues - Gdale_Bengal - 10-07-2024
(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: Well, the picked Murphy and Jenkins and Carter high. Those guys just aren't players yet.
Murphy doesn’t play inside, Jenkins was injured and drafted this year and Carter was drafted as a project. He isn’t on the team now.
RE: Defensive Issues - Frank Booth - 10-07-2024
(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to replace a DJ Reader with a rookie. Just like it was hard to replace Whitworth.
yep. the bad o-line drafts ended the dalton era
these bad d-line whiffs? in the burrow era? we'll see
RE: Defensive Issues - 007BengalsFan - 10-07-2024
(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: To me, the defensive issues aren't scheme. The line is bad
This hurts LB play. And the safeties are slow and bad. And our CBs are young and not that good CTB shouldn't be a #1 CB.
We miss Reader and Bates.
Our defensive draft picks haven't worked out.
Carter was a 3rd Round pick. Waived.
Murphy, Hill, etc are mediocre so far.
We blitz, we get beat with throws. We don't blitz, we get no pressure.
Then, we can't stop the run so we have to play 1 dimensional guys like Guy that get no rush.
I'm not a fan of Lou, but there's only so much you can do when your talent level is bad.
I have given Lou the benefit of the doubt because it was his defense that carried us to the Superbowl and since that time we have let the talent leave. Im not sure if Lou is the answer at DC right now but he certainly doesnt have the talent on defense other teams do. People keep saying he's bad and maybe he is but there is a lack of talent on this defense that would be hard for any DC to overcome.
RE: Defensive Issues - Bengalbug - 10-07-2024
(3 hours ago)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Them not putting enough early picks and signing enough veteran line help has almost single handedly destroyed this defense.
Bad take brother. Just day 1 and 2 picks
2024 - Jenkins and Jackson
2023 - Murphy, Turner, battle
2022 - hill, Taylor Britt, Carter
2021 - ossai
2020 - Wilson
2019 - Pratt
19 total picks in rounds 1-3, since Taylor took over, 11 on defense.
Rankins, Hill, Hendrickson, this doesn’t include Larry O, reader in past years.
It’s not for a lack of effort and assets.
RE: Defensive Issues - Whatever - 10-07-2024
(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: Well, the picked Murphy and Jenkins and Carter high. Those guys just aren't players yet.
Also, Ossai.
RE: Defensive Issues - Gdale_Bengal - 10-07-2024
(3 hours ago)Bengalbug Wrote: Bad take brother. Just day 1 and 2 picksDefensive line? When did Wilson, Pratt, Turner, Battle, Hill, CTB play defensive line?
2024 - Jenkins and Jackson
2023 - Murphy, Turner, battle
2022 - hill, Taylor Britt, Carter
2021 - ossai
2020 - Wilson
2019 - Pratt
19 total picks in rounds 1-3, since Taylor took over, 11 on defense.
Rankins, Hill, Hendrickson, this doesn’t include Larry O, reader in past years.
It’s not for a lack of effort and assets.
They cannot stop the run. At all. Putting the run stuffing on 2 rookies is bad . Has Jackson played a down yet?