(03-14-2016, 04:35 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: ...Why we wouldn't pursue a veteran FA Wide Receiver.  Let's think about this logically.  Here's what we know:

1.) If we offered Marvin Jones a contract wouldn't it be fair to say that we thought he filled a need?  I mean, even if they love a guy, if they have absolutely no use for him, they're not going to shell out that amount of coin.  So, it stands to reason, that the Bengals felt as if they had a need for another veteran receiver.

2.) We obviously can afford a decent amount.  Reports are Marvin Jones saw his contract at 8 mil per matched by the team.  So again, logic says we can afford up to 8 million per.  At least if you believe the reports that signing MMJ wouldn't have affected Iloka or Pacman.

So, help me understand it.  If we feel we needed a veteran presence like Marvin Jones, if we felt it was worth it to pay handsomely for it, and if we can afford the cap hit, why exactly would we not consider someone else?

It makes no sense.  Now, I I understand if they don't think anyone else is worth the same amount.  But you couldn't bring in a cheaper option?  I mean, if you think it's a need, there's no one else that helps at all?

It just seems starnge to me.  Stubborn or short-sided even.  Perhaps they still sign someone, but it sure sounds like we shouldn't expect it.  It's almost as if they can't keep their own players they would rather just ignore the position.  "We have 8 million to invest in receiver, we need a number 2 receiver, but if it's not our guy then we'll do nothing."  

Makes a lot of sense...  

(03-14-2016, 04:44 PM)Benton Wrote: 1. What says we aren't?
2. What says we should pursue  veteran in place of someone on the roster or a draft pick?


Personally, I've said before I thought if one or both walked that we would sign a veteran and draft someone. I still think that.

(03-14-2016, 04:44 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I'm glad MLJ wasn't re-signed, because if he had been, then we likely lose George or Pacman. I would rather have them.

I think there's still a chance they sign a vet WR, maybe a Lafell, Cooper or Kerley type and then draft a WR or two.

(03-14-2016, 04:46 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This reminds me of the threads where people were complaining about the Bengals letting all of our starters walk or not re-signing Iloka.

Keep your game sharp guys.  Never know when you will need it in the real world.

(03-14-2016, 04:51 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: According to the latest BBP, the thought was that they were still going to go after everyone even if they had re-signed Marvin. Definitely makes that $15 million budget look even worse.

(03-14-2016, 04:44 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I'm glad MLJ wasn't re-signed, because if he had been, then we likely lose George or Pacman. I would rather have them.

(03-14-2016, 04:59 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Supposedly, it wouldn't have affected their ability to get those done.  

(03-14-2016, 04:53 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Do you view every single thing as a complaint? 

(03-14-2016, 04:53 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Guy in front of Fred at the Supermarket:  "Hey, I'm just curious, can I use this coupon on two different Stoffers dinners or do they need to be the same one?"

Fred - JESUS H CHRIST, whine some more!!!!  LISTEN TO THIS GUY SCREAM AND WHINE!!!!!

Everyone in store - What the hell is that guy's problem?

(03-14-2016, 04:49 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: 1.) I had read somewhere that we shouldn't look for help at WR coming in FA.  I thought it was one of the beat guys, but can't remember.
2.) Fair enough, but if they deemed that the best approach then why did they offere Marvin Jones a contract in the first place?

Either they feel like they need a veteran Wide receiver or they don't.  Offering someone 8 mil a year, to be your 2nd receivers, SCREAMS to me "we need another weapon here."

(03-14-2016, 05:14 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: I hear Mike Wallace's name kicked around several other teams.  I think he would be perfect here.  Exactly what this offense needs to help the underneath:  a vertical threat.  Before people start spouting off 40 times of WRs coming out of the combine, we KNOW he has lethal speed.  He is also adept at tracking the deep ball.  He has had two of the worst downfield QBs in the league since leaving putzburgh.  I would offer him $4 million base per year with a modest signing bonus and incentives that could take it up to $5.5 million.  Maybe he wouldn't accept that, or maybe he would like to play with a high-powered offense and a QB that can get him the ball.

(03-14-2016, 05:29 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: I think, as someone else already alluded to earlier, that the bengals value their known commodities more than an outside FA. So in the minds of the front office, once Marvin walked and George re-signed we had enough for one more big deal and another medium sized deal. They preferred jones and vinny for those contracts because we know what we're gonna get from those two, even if WR was a bigger need.

Would you rather have pacman or an overpriced vet WR from another team who could very easily bust here (Coles, Bryant, etc)? Considering what Sanu got paid, I'm glad they haven't gone out and offered a similar contract to a similar player. I tend to agree that our guys are a better bet than bringing in an outsider.

That said I expect some cheap vet to come in as competition later on, some fans will think he'll be great and he won't do shit like we've seen year after year. The holes left by Jones/Sanu will be filled by draft picks and in house guys, I personally hope to see more from Burkhead next year. As long as we get one of the top WR's in the draft I think they'll be fine