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Late January Mock
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In light of the sad Eric All news, the Bengals give Joe Burrow and the rest of the offense a fantastic gift in the form of the best all around TE in the class.


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(01-28-2025, 08:23 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In light of the sad Eric All news, the Bengals give Joe Burrow and the rest of the offense a fantastic gift in the form of the best all around TE in the class.

I'd take that. No S help or RB depth, but the harsh reality is we got too many holes to fill and only 6 picks. 
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(01-28-2025, 08:41 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I'd take that. No S help or RB depth, but the harsh reality is we got too many holes to fill and only 6 picks. 

I went with who I thought would be the biggest contributors on the top 4 players, with the options available to me at each round (without grossly reaching, of course). We also have free agency, UDFA picks and the wave of cap casualty cuts to wade through before the next season begins play.
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(01-28-2025, 08:46 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I went with who I thought would be the biggest contributors on the top 4 players, with the options available to me at each round (without grossly reaching, of course). We also have free agency, UDFA picks and the wave of cap casualty cuts to wade through before the next season begins play.

I like David Walker but after he measured at just a tad over 6 ft and 265 I doubt the bengals draft an edge that small that early in the draft that's def not their MO.
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I'd be happy with just about any draft that saw us walk away with Warren and Walker in the first two rounds. David Walker is interesting. He might not have the length to hold the edge in the run game, but he definitely brings the juice as a pass rusher. Nash is a kid that I've looked at late. Raw, but I like the former QB pedigree. Nice job.
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(Yesterday, 11:03 AM)Whatever Wrote: I'd be happy with just about any draft that saw us walk away with Warren and Walker in the first two rounds.  David Walker is interesting.  He might not have the length to hold the edge in the run game, but he definitely brings the juice as a pass rusher.  Nash is a kid that I've looked at late.  Raw, but I like the former QB pedigree.  Nice job.

Admittedly, I was unaware of the length issues with David Walker when I ran this simulator. I too was intrigued with Nash's background as a QB and it brought back memories of Mo Sanu hitting on some deep bombs in the wide open Jay Gruden offense.
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(Yesterday, 06:40 AM)pulses Wrote: I like David Walker but after he measured at just a tad over 6 ft and 265 I doubt the bengals draft an edge that small that early in the draft that's def not their MO.

Yeah, his height/weight doesn't bother me as he's got a thick build to him. However, I did read that he's got shorter arms and that could hamper him, unless he has superb hand fighting skills.
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I like the first two picks, don't know much about the guys after.

I see David Walker is coming from FCS and also converted from a WR to EDGE in college?
That sounds like it could make him a multi-year project...is that the case?
If so, I'd prefer to find someone who maybe has somewhat less of a ceiling but can more of an immediate contributor given the state of the DEs after Hendrickson.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

Sorry for Party Rocking!

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(Yesterday, 01:51 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I like the first two picks, don't know much about the guys after.

I see David Walker is coming from FCS and also converted from a WR to EDGE in college?
That sounds like it could make him a multi-year project...is that the case?
If so, I'd prefer to find someone who maybe has somewhat less of a ceiling but can more of an immediate contributor given the state of the DEs after Hendrickson.

His numbers have improved every season as a DE. This year he had 68 tackles (45 solo), 5 PDs, 4 FFs, to go along with 10.5 Sacks. He's built like a MLB from the mid-90s era.
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(01-28-2025, 08:23 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In light of the sad Eric All news, the Bengals give Joe Burrow and the rest of the offense a fantastic gift in the form of the best all around TE in the class.

I would sprint to the podium if Warren were available and same for Walker in round 2.
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2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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(Yesterday, 01:55 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: His numbers have improved every season as a DE. This year he had 68 tackles (45 solo), 5 PDs, 4 FFs, to go along with 10.5 Sacks. He's built like a MLB from the mid-90s era.

In FCS though, right?

Cordell Volson also was pretty damn good in FCS but has been mediocre at best in the NFL after 3 full seasons.

I know not every FCS player is the same, but this is where the true scouts will need to be able to assess if this dude is legit going to be able to grow into a good or better NFL player or be more like Volson.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

Sorry for Party Rocking!

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(Yesterday, 11:29 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, his height/weight doesn't bother me as he's got a thick build to him. However, I did read that he's got shorter arms and that could hamper him, unless he has superb hand fighting skills.
yeah 31 6/8 arms i'm not sure on his hand skills
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(Yesterday, 02:51 PM)ochocincos Wrote: In FCS though, right?

Cordell Volson also was pretty damn good in FCS but has been mediocre at best in the NFL after 3 full seasons.

I know not every FCS player is the same, but this is where the true scouts will need to be able to assess if this dude is legit going to be able to grow into a good or better NFL player or be more like Volson.

Going of the Consensus Big Board, Volson was the 197th ranked prospect in his class.  He was actually a pretty big reach.  You can't expect a guy ranked that low from any school to develop into a quality starter.  
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I love Warren as a prospect and would be ok with him at 17. However, its never good to have to draft the same position after taking 2 in the prior draft. Especially a position like tight end. Bad drafting.
We also drafted two interior d lineman last year and are having to revisit that position early this year. Just not efficient roster building
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(Yesterday, 02:20 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would sprint to the podium if Warren were available and same for Walker in round 2.

Walker left the senior bowl after 2 days of not very good work, That's probably going to hurt him some.
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