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Tee’s market price
(01-31-2025, 03:19 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: I think Tee is probably gone and they have to try and get something for him but I also think Chase and Trey are higher priorities even though they are not yet FAs.

How much would he get and how many teams would go after Chase if he were a free agent? That would be insane and I am sure most teams would be interested. I do not think that will ever happen but if they are after Tee this bad then what would a Chase free agency look like? Better pay the man so we never find out.

A lot of people think Trey is a bigger priority. I suppose being about the only non turd on defense will do that. I just can't help but to think that paying him big money beyond the one year he has remaining will be paying big for output that has already happened.
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(Yesterday, 05:32 PM)jason Wrote: A lot of people think Trey is a bigger priority. I suppose being about the only non turd on defense will do that. I just can't help but to think that paying him big money beyond the one year he has remaining will be paying big for output that has already happened.

Probably true but let’s say in ‘26 he drops off to only 10 or so sacks then 7 or 8 in ‘27. You are still getting good production and with the cap constantly going up it is not all that that bad of a deal.
You have to take these hits to keep great players - going cheap because of the fear that they might be over-paid 2 or 3 years from now means losing great players. This is what has held this team back from being consistently great - don’t be afraid to go for it now.

And Trey is a huge priority not because he’s the only non-turd on D (which is pretty much true) but because he is an elite NFL pass rusher who led the league in sacks. Very difficult to replace a player like that.
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(Yesterday, 05:32 PM)jason Wrote: A lot of people think Trey is a bigger priority. I suppose being about the only non turd on defense will do that. I just can't help but to think that paying him big money beyond the one year he has remaining will be paying big for output that has already happened.

I would trade Trey for a 2 and a 3 and load up on DL in this draft.
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(01-27-2025, 02:01 PM)jason Wrote: Well for one thing they get extensions done early. Tee Higgins should've been extended after 2022, and Chase last year.

That's the killer.  I have no idea what held up the Chase deal.  Mulagheta probably had a hand in stalling the Higgins negotiations.  Either way, the FO has yet to learn that letting these rookie deals play out as long as possibly hurts them more than it helps.  

The Chase projections are going to get bastshit crazy.  It all could have been avoided last September.  No idea why they can't get this through their thick skulls.  

Never extending any non-qb and wearing out the franchise tag are a bad look to players.  
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(11 hours ago)samhain Wrote: That's the killer.  I have no idea what held up the Chase deal.  Mulagheta probably had a hand in stalling the Higgins negotiations.  Either way, the FO has yet to learn that letting these rookie deals play out as long as possibly hurts them more than it helps.  

The Chase projections are going to get bastshit crazy.  It all could have been avoided last September.  No idea why they can't get this through their thick skulls.  

Never extending any non-qb and wearing out the franchise tag are a bad look to players.  

Right

They "cut off their nose to spite their own face" as the old saying goes. I laugh hard when people say stuff like the Bengals really know how to run an NFL franchise. Fact is they're horrible at it on a gigantic level. They've botched the whole Chase, Tee, Trey situation/contracts up so bed and now they're going to pay dearly for it.

I'm just afraid they've jacked it up so much recovery is nearly impossible in any kind of short term.
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(11 hours ago)samhain Wrote: I have no idea what held up the Chase deal.  Mulagheta probably had a hand in stalling the Higgins negotiations.

You have no idea what held up the Chase deal? The same thing that always the reason when there's a hold-up for Bengals players deals. The Bengals FO. They wanted to give him "guaranteed" money that didn't actually become guaranteed until 2027... aka, not actually guaranteed at all if it took 4 years.

It's funny you blame Mulugheta for stalling the Higgins negotiations, but Higgins has openly said that in the '22-'23 offseason the Bengals offer never even reached $20m/yr despite that being when he was coming off back-to-back 1k seasons, so they stopped negotiating for over a year because it was such a lowball.
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(11 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You have no idea what held up the Chase deal? The same thing that always the reason when there's a hold-up for Bengals players deals. The Bengals FO.

Agreed. It's a safe assumption that it's the Bengals FO, always.
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(11 hours ago)bengalfan74 Wrote: I laugh hard when people say stuff like the Bengals really know how to run an NFL franchise. 

You work at an insane asylum? That's fascinating.
Like a teenage girl driving a Ferrari. 
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