bfiner Mock (2025)

[SunsetBengal]

(04-01-2025, 07:26 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: Bengals need a guard—probably two. I like the pick.

He shouldn’t need to play tackle so I don’t really care if he can play tackle or not.

He can play either guard spot and it’s a need.

If he’s legit it’s a home run pick and at least 1 guard spot is solved on the cheap for 5 years.

4 years on the cheap, that 5th year is going to cost a bit. However, I would love if the Bengals changed their mindset back to that of Paul Brown, and started building their teams from the inside out.

[Whatever]

(04-01-2025, 06:24 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I get that Booker is not a sexy pick and that there are tons more High-Floor picks out there, but we know this dude can protect his quarterback and is durable.

Some folks want a more versatile player (Jackson, NDSU kid). We don't know that Booker cannot play Tackle, we just know he hasn't been asked.

Dude definitely has the build to play OT at 6'5" and 34.5" Arms, Jackson has 33.5" arms and the NDSU kid has 32" Arms

I wouldn't say I would want a more versatile player in regards to position.  Jackson I think could survive at T if you needed him to in an emergency, but I wouldn't peg him as Brown's heir apparent, either.  Zabel, probably the same, though the really short arms make it sketchy.  I don't see him being a T and often see C as what he'll be in the pro's, which he hasn't played before, due to arm length.

To me, it's more of an issue of Booker being limited schematically and the fact that philosophically, the OL needs to get more athletic.  We have had the least athletic OL in the league the last several years, and it shows.  We dumped Pollack because his "glass eaters" philosophy was a complete failure, but Booker doesn't really represent a step forward, just further digging in to that philosophy.

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(04-02-2025, 12:46 PM)Whatever Wrote: I wouldn't say I would want a more versatile player in regards to position.  Jackson I think could survive at T if you needed him to in an emergency, but I wouldn't peg him as Brown's heir apparent, either.  Zabel, probably the same, though the really short arms make it sketchy.  I don't see him being a T and often see C as what he'll be in the pro's, which he hasn't played before, due to arm length.

To me, it's more of an issue of Booker being limited schematically and the fact that philosophically, the OL needs to get more athletic.  We have had the least athletic OL in the league the last several years, and it shows.  We dumped Pollack because his "glass eaters" philosophy was a complete failure, but Booker doesn't really represent a step forward, just further digging in to that philosophy.

In a perfect world, Bengals get a guy who has:
A) Played at least one full season of Guard in college
B) Played well across multiple seasons in college
C) Been a starter for multiple years in college
D) Has the necessary athleticism and power to succeed in multiple schemes
E) Has proven himself both as a run blocker and pass blocker
F) Has gone against FBS talent

Bonus of being able to swing out to OT or inside to C in a pinch.

To me, that's very few of the OL in this draft class.

[3wt]

(03-31-2025, 11:42 PM)sandwedge Wrote: To be fair, that was a very late hit

It was a late hit, but as good as Steinbach was he could be manhandled by certain players.

[3wt]

(04-01-2025, 06:24 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I get that Booker is not a sexy pick and that there are tons more High-Floor picks out there, but we know this dude can protect his quarterback and is durable.

Some folks want a more versatile player (Jackson, NDSU kid). We don't know that Booker cannot play Tackle, we just know he hasn't been asked.

Dude definitely has the build to play OT at 6'5" and 34.5" Arms, Jackson has 33.5" arms and the NDSU kid has 32" Arms

I'm all about protecting the core of the pocket and being able to assert some dominance in the running game - especially in "must have" short yardage snaps.   With his wingspan and strength this guy can effect both.   I'm up for it.  And as much as we need a 3 technique and safety - both of which might be available, it's time to do what we've been asking for since the franchise got here:  protect his valuable self.

I'd go guard again in the 2nd if Ratlege is there.   Bookend guards is what I've been wanting for a while.  Give Joe a solid inner pocket and he's going to do a lot of damage in a surgical kind of way.

[Whatever]

(04-03-2025, 12:16 PM)3wt Wrote: I'm all about protecting the core of the pocket and being able to assert some dominance in the running game - especially in "must have" short yardage snaps.   With his wingspan and strength this guy can effect both.   I'm up for it.  And as much as we need a 3 technique and safety - both of which might be available, it's time to do what we've been asking for since the franchise got here:  protect his valuable self.

I'd go guard again in the 2nd if Ratlege is there.   Bookend guards is what I've been wanting for a while.  Give Joe a solid inner pocket and he's going to do a lot of damage in a surgical kind of way.

It's been a couple of years since last I looked into it, but OL's with multiple rookie starters almost always perform poorly.  Generally, you can work in one rookie starters without too much issue, but with two, it just spirals.  

Beyond that, you'd have almost certainly the least athletic T-G pairing watching Joe's blindside.

[Soonerpeace]

(03-29-2025, 04:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I've done one this year (not counting the dreaded mock) and I usually like to get in 3 before the draft. This one looks quite a bit different than my bfirst:
https://thebengalsboard.com/thread-39998.html


RD1- TYLER BOOKER/OG  (6’5”/325)

The temptation is to go D-line on this especially exterior. Still, after Carter (DE) and Mason (DT) you get many players rated similarly, so we’ll focus on that in later rounds. TB is hands down the best interior o-lineman in the draft and only “falls” to us because of lack of versatility. Plug Booker in at LG and don’t worry about it for the next decade.


RD2: JACK SAWYER/DE (6’4”/260)

The “Modern Day Warrior” is the perfect replacement for Sam Hubbard. Same game, same school, same birth state.  Hell, he even wears the same elbow brace. Jack is never going to lead the league in sacks, even though he did post 4.5 sacks in the college playoffs alone; but he is going to set the edge, give you 100%, and pressure the QB


RD3: TY ROBINSON/DT (6’5”/288)


Ty is undersized for the interior at 288 but he’s strong. 28 reps at the combine was 2nd among defensive interior linemen. Ty may not be a full-time starter but he has shown the ability to get to the QB with 7 sacks this past season. Brandon Fiske was the best interior rookie D-lineman in the NFL this past year. Compare Ty’s numbers to his.


RD4: JONAS SANKER/SAF (6’0’/205)


Sometimes you wonder why a player is ranked so low and Jonas fits this category for me. He has good size, sub 4.5 speed and can jump out of the building. Is he productive? 107 tackles, 11 PBUs, and 3 FFs last year. Give Stone one more year to see if he returns to 2023 form, if not rise with sank


RD5: CONNOR COLBY/OG (6’6/309)


Corn-feed interior olineman from Iowa. This dude cracked the starting lineup as a Freshman at RG and stayed there. He has limited experience at RT and LG but IDC. I want a strong RG who is durable and has shown he can compete and excel at the highest level


RD6: JAYLIN LANE/WR (5’10””/191)


Special Teams demon with 4.3 speed. Excels at gunner and in the return game. Jaylin doesn’t have an extensive route tree but does great with YAC.Where could this help us? All those screens/reverses we run with Chase that seem to always go for about 1.5 yards

This is pretty good but Pratt may need to be replaced.

[*Synric*]

Bengals are bringing in Ty Robinson for a visit.

[*bfine32*]

(Yesterday, 04:21 PM)Synric Wrote: Bengals are bringing in Ty Robinson for a visit.

They must have checked out the mock!! Great news