Dalton Risner: "Would LOVE to be a Bengal"

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(04-05-2025, 10:35 PM)schroomytunes Wrote: I still think we go defense in RD 1, that's the best way to get a sure fire BPA IMO. I think it comes down to DE, DT, or Emmanwori. I think where the value is in this draft is Rd 3/4 , and we do have a history of trading back in the 2nd round. I think by dropping back 10 spots to @ 60 we still get our guy and gain a 4th and a 7th some team will be desperate to get a WR as FA was slim this year. ex.

trade with GB: #49 for #54  and acquire #124(4th) and #237(7th)

- we can still look to the Vet FA's after the draft to backfill the roster. (Risner, Scherff, Hernandez)

I think we go Defense in Round 1 as well. Either Nolen or Emmanwori to me make the most sense to me right now, we will see.

Agree on the value being in rounds 3 and 4. Would be nice to trade back and add some more picks at some point to get another pick in there.

[BFritz21]

(04-05-2025, 11:19 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I think we go Defense in Round 1 as well. Either Nolen or Emmanwori to me make the most sense to me right now, we will see.

Agree on the value being in rounds 3 and 4. Would be nice to trade back and add some more picks at some point to get another pick in there.

I was set on Nolan but I've been so nervous about our guard spot that I feel like we can't pass on a guard in the first.

If we were to sign a FA guard (2 would be amazing), or we're certain that we can get a guard in two, then I'd for sure go Nolen because he'll make our ends lives easier by calling for double teams and forcing the quarterback out of the pocket, and our DBs' lives easier by pressuring the quarterback.

I just think we need to make sure Burrow is protected before we do anything else.

[*ochocincos*]

(04-05-2025, 11:19 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I think we go Defense in Round 1 as well. Either Nolen or Emmanwori to me make the most sense to me right now, we will see.

Agree on the value being in rounds 3 and 4. Would be nice to trade back and add some more picks at some point to get another pick in there.

I think we see Bengals make another "need" pick this draft and it ends up being one of OG, DE, or safety.

SAF only has Stone under contract through this year and Battle through next.
DE has Hendrickson, Ossai, and Sample just this year, Murphy through next (unless they pick up option, which is unlikely).
OG has Volson and Patrick signed just through this year, Ford through next. This position arguably has the worst potential starters out of every position on the team.

On the flip side, Bengals have 4 DTs signed through at least 2026 - Hill (2027), Slaton (2026), Jenkins (2027), Jackson (2027). Hill and Slaton will be the starters.

All of these positions aside from Hendrickson at DE really underperformed last year, but I think they'll wait on DT because they'll feel they have their starters set and two young Day 2 picks grooming as rotational pieces.

[XenoMorph]

(04-04-2025, 02:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I still might prefer Scherff, but it's a pretty good sign when players are throwing it out there that they'd love to be a part of your team.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/look-free-agent-guard-dalton-risner-wants-to-play-for-cincinnati-bengals/ar-AA1CjbJB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2ff6c8d0f9104809a27aaecbfaab2e5d&ei=13

So he will sign at Vet Min?

[SunsetBengal]

(3 hours ago)XenoMorph Wrote: So he will sign at Vet Min?

Spotrac is projecting Risner to sign for $4.5M/per. His value is low due to only playing 10 games last year, and 15 each of the previous two seasons due to injuries.

[*ochocincos*]

(2 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: Spotrac is projecting Risner to sign for $4.5M/per. His value is low due to only playing 10 games last year, and 15 each of the previous two seasons due to injuries.

I'd take Risner at 10 games over any of the current OGs at 17 lol.

EDIT - Sorry, I didn't mean 17th overall pick in the draft, I meant any of the currently-rostered OGs for 17 games.
Even if Bengals do take a Guard at 17, that fills just one spot.
I'd love it if they:
- Signed Risner to cover one of the Guard starter spots
- Drafted a Guard early to cover the other
- Ford and Patrick back up
- Volson cut

[SunsetBengal]

(2 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: I'd take Risner at 10 games over any of the current OGs at 17 lol.

Yeah, the guy can play well when healthy. I'd be comfortable with signing him, and drafting someone like Ratledge or Donovan Jackson in the 2nd round. Dalton Risner has played full seasons, just not since 2021.

[*ochocincos*]

(2 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, the guy can play well when healthy. I'd be comfortable with signing him, and drafting someone like Ratledge or Donovan Jackson in the 2nd round. Dalton Risner has played full seasons, just not since 2021.

Cutting Volson would free up $3.6 mill in cap, which would nearly cover what Risner would command, assuming he even still is looking for $4.5 mill.
And Risner is an upgrade over all of Volson, Patrick, and Ford today.

Feels like a no-brainer, to me.

[Sled21]

(2 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Cutting Volson would free up $3.6 mill in cap, which would nearly cover what Risner would command, assuming he even still is looking for $4.5 mill.
And Risner is an upgrade over all of Volson, Patrick, and Ford today.

Feels like a no-brainer, to me.

The best ability is availability. If he can't stay healthy, than he is not an upgrade over Volson, who has no problem staying healthy. So even if we sign him, I think we have to keep Volson or someone else.

[*ochocincos*]

(1 hour ago)Sled21 Wrote: The best ability is availability. If he can't stay healthy, than he is not an upgrade over Volson, who has no problem staying healthy. So even if we sign him, I think we have to keep Volson or someone else.

That would literally be what Ford or Patrick would be for - injury coverage.

And no, you don't keep a subpar player because they stay generally healthy over a guy who would be an upgrade for 10-15 games a year just because he may miss a few games.

[WeezyBengal]

(2 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Cutting Volson would free up $3.6 mill in cap, which would nearly cover what Risner would command, assuming he even still is looking for $4.5 mill.
And Risner is an upgrade over all of Volson, Patrick, and Ford today.

Feels like a no-brainer, to me.

Or you could just keep Volson for good depth and sign Risner with the 25 million we still have in cap space? 

[*ochocincos*]

(1 hour ago)WeezyBengal Wrote: Or you could just keep Volson for good depth and sign Risner with the 25 million we still have in cap space? 

Because Volson is not, in fact, good depth?

[XenoMorph]

(2 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: I'd take Risner at 10 games over any of the current OGs at 17 lol.

EDIT - Sorry, I didn't mean 17th overall pick in the draft, I meant any of the currently-rostered OGs for 17 games.
Even if Bengals do take a Guard at 17, that fills just one spot.
I'd love it if they:
- Signed Risner to cover one of the Guard starter spots
- Drafted a Guard early to cover the other
- Ford and Patrick back up
- Volson cut

guess that depends whos backing him up the other 7 games...   Consistency vs Wild High and Lows

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(04-05-2025, 11:39 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I was set on Nolan but I've been so nervous about our guard spot that I feel like we can't pass on a guard in the first.

If we were to sign a FA guard (2 would be amazing), or we're certain that we can get a guard in two, then I'd for sure go Nolen because he'll make our ends lives easier by calling for double teams and forcing the quarterback out of the pocket, and our DBs' lives easier by pressuring the quarterback.

I just think we need to make sure Burrow is protected before we do anything else.

Understandable except we shouldn't reach just for need. Trade back and pick up a Guard and a pick if that is the plan.

Bring in Risner or Scherff regardless IMO. Also feel Nolen would help our DL as we need pass rushers badly, but he probably wouldn't
play as much as Emmanwori immediately. I think Emmanwori would automatically start and make an immediate impact, which is what
you want in a 1st round pick. Lots of decent Guards to be had after the first round.

(3 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: I think we see Bengals make another "need" pick this draft and it ends up being one of OG, DE, or safety.

SAF only has Stone under contract through this year and Battle through next.
DE has Hendrickson, Ossai, and Sample just this year, Murphy through next (unless they pick up option, which is unlikely).
OG has Volson and Patrick signed just through this year, Ford through next. This position arguably has the worst potential starters out of every position on the team.

On the flip side, Bengals have 4 DTs signed through at least 2026 - Hill (2027), Slaton (2026), Jenkins (2027), Jackson (2027). Hill and Slaton will be the starters.

All of these positions aside from Hendrickson at DE really underperformed last year, but I think they'll wait on DT because they'll feel they have their starters set and two young Day 2 picks grooming as rotational pieces.

Good points Ochocincos. This is why I think Emmanwori is the most likely pick at 17, or Starks. Safety is thin and we would be reaching on a Guard.

We have 4 DT's locked up, maybe End is a thought with what you are saying here, Mike Green or James Pearce but both these guys have character
concerns and are undersized. Shemar Stewart would be a huge gamble with his lack of production.

[Joelist]

I expect them to sign someone like Risner or Scherf either during or after the draft. They are waiting to see what the Guard room will look like first.

[Luvnit2]

(1 hour ago)ochocincos Wrote: Because Volson is not, in fact, good depth?

Depth is the wrong word.

Better word is great experience.

Having said that, I would love Risner and then let Volson and other fight for their NFL career in camp. If they don't improve, then we cut Volson and/or others.