Dalton Risner: "Would LOVE to be a Bengal"

[phil413]

(04-18-2025, 12:08 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I can see the Bengals offerig to extend Trey after the draft looking something like this:

2025 - Give 8 million dollar signing bonus - 
2026 - 28 million with 16 million guaranteed
2027 - 28 million with none guaranteed

Cap hit - 2025 - No change stays at 15.8 million]
2026 - 30 million with 16 million guaranteed
2027 - 34 million and none guaranteed

In this sceanrio, if Trey keeps performing he can earm the entire contract. He gets an additional 24 million guaranteed with the extension minimum

I think this is fair as team could not extend him if they choose, then tag him for less than 28 million in 2026. If he does not sign something, he has no more guaranteed money after 2025. At 31, that is a huge risk for him. But, if he believes in himself, he can earn an addtional 64 million the next 3 years if he maxes out the contract.

I would guess Bengals would have some type of bonuses based on availability as well similar to Tee, if he misses time, he loses money.

Yeah I agree with those numbers for the most part.  As it pertains to guard, I think the key number in those two scenarios is his guaranteed money this year.  They have some money to use even with the rollover money , draft picks and PS.  The only reason not to full important needs pre draft would be I assume it's being earmarked for Trey's raise to get him signed to the extension.  Otherwise, there's no reason not to sign Risner to that cheap of a deal.  

[Essex Johnson]

(Today, 01:59 AM)phil413 Wrote: Yeah I agree with those numbers for the most part.  As it pertains to guard, I think the key number in those two scenarios is his guaranteed money this year.  They have some money to use even with the rollover money , draft picks and PS.  The only reason not to full important needs pre draft would be I assume it's being earmarked for Trey's raise to get him signed to the extension.  Otherwise, there's no reason not to sign Risner to that cheap of a deal.  

don't you think it is interesting that last couple years Risner is just sitting out their late in Free Agency, we are not the only team needing guards and every team has seemed to pass him over, just wondering if there is something we just don;t know

[ERIC1]

(04-18-2025, 01:22 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nah, he has played decent in the NFL, aside from that lol

we could sign the best guard in the league..would not make a damn bit of difference until that line plays as a cohesive unit..hopefully the changes made @OL coach will help

[TecmoBengals]

(7 hours ago)ERIC1 Wrote: we could sign the best guard in the league..would not make a damn bit of difference until that line plays as a cohesive unit..hopefully the changes made @OL coach will help

You really believe that after the season Cappa had? He arguably had one of the worst G seasons in NFL history.

[falsestart]

Hard to really know what everyone in the organization is thinking and what their true vision is. Everyone here has some pretty good thoughts on things involving certain positional groups. Here's some more maybe to think about. The one name that I think doesn't ever get mentioned on here is Jaxson Kirkland. We have kept Kirkland around for a few years now and if the guy doesn't have the injury bug I think he's highly thought of. If I recall last year up until his injury he was the extra O lineman to come in. After injury it was Lee. Maybe the coaching staff is really high on these two guys. Also if Patrick plays best at center who's to say we can't slide Karras back out to guard. I'm not saying the organization is done adding o line help via draft or free agency but just some thoughts that haven't been mentioned. Also I think it's possible that you could see LB in play during the draft. Not really sure who would man that position if they decide to let Pratt go. If they can get a safety, running back, guard/tackle and line backer in the draft allowing them to release Stone, Moss, Pratt and Volson opening up enough money to sign Hendrickson to an extension and allowing a Scherff signing I would take that.

[ERIC1]

(5 hours ago)TecmoBengals Wrote: You really believe that after the season Cappa had? He arguably had one of the worst G seasons in NFL history.

 I absolutely do..there are a 1001 things that we don't know about..do you really think the Bengals would purposefully want to get their 250 million star quarterback hurt..they hired a new OL coach..they will figure it out..If Reisner was a piece of the puzzle they needed they would have signed him and they still might.....But signing aging players with recognizable names is not always the answer...I watch KC quite often..Mahommes runs for his life on almost every play..Same with the quarterback of Buffalo..regardless of PFF scores......The draft is soon..hopefully we will see a DL..OL and linebacker chosen..If this team stays healthy its gonna be a very good year

[Luvnit2]

(Today, 01:59 AM)phil413 Wrote: Yeah I agree with those numbers for the most part.  As it pertains to guard, I think the key number in those two scenarios is his guaranteed money this year.  They have some money to use even with the rollover money , draft picks and PS.  The only reason not to full important needs pre draft would be I assume it's being earmarked for Trey's raise to get him signed to the extension.  Otherwise, there's no reason not to sign Risner to that cheap of a deal.  

There is possibly one huge reason, the FO does not feel he is any better than the guards on our roster since it is likely not about money.

As fans we sometimes assume the FO is cheap or inciherent when they do what we think is obvious. I do think they are waiting on the draft and also am starting to think their plan is a rookie draft pick to start and one of the guys signed. The new OL coach may have found a fixable flaw with Volson, Kirkland or feel Patrick is better than Risner or Scherff.

Or maybe the guy they really want is an injured Hernandez who is rehabbing. I am hopeful they do have a plan, hopeful because they easily and affordably could have signed Risner prior to the draft, but the key is they CHOSE NOT TOO AND AGAIN LIKELY NOT ABOUT MONEY, IT IS ABOUT THE TALENT PETERS SEES IN FA.