Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 05:07 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I agree. If they were going to renovate, a dome should have been added. This is a waste of money in my humble opinion.

Hope they enlarge the scoreboards

[QueenCity]

I'll admit a half a billion dollars for a renovation to me doesn't seem like money well spent. I rather it go towards a brand new stadium that can last 30+ years.

Perhaps once the time this deal ends the Brown family decides to sell.

[puddycat]

Glad the deal seems to have got done. Paycor is a great location that allows city dweller to tailgate.. no driving out to a stadium that has no alternatives to stadium parking and stadium food. IMO money spent on a better fan experience (concessions, audio, video, concourse flow) and improving the practice facilities (including covered practice field) is money well spent. And it keeps the Bengals in Cincinnati for at least 11 more years. Nothing but love.

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 08:13 PM)QueenCity Wrote: I'll admit a half a billion dollars for a renovation to me doesn't seem like money well spent. I rather it go towards a brand new stadium that can last 30+ years.

Perhaps once the time this deal ends the Brown family decides to sell.

Apparently the structure @Paycor is in exceptional condition...no reason it cant last a few more decades

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)puddycat Wrote: Glad the deal seems to have got done. Paycor is a great location that allows city dweller to tailgate.. no driving out to a stadium that has no alternatives to stadium parking and stadium food. IMO money spent on a better fan experience (concessions, audio, video, concourse flow) and improving the practice facilities (including covered practice field) is money well spent. And it keeps the Bengals in Cincinnati for at least 11 more years. Nothing but love.

1000%

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 01:24 PM)Trademark Wrote: Paycor is severely outdated

Great seats...great sound system..upgraded Wi fi..great views..what is outdated..only thing I want to see is a larger north end scoreboard

[Bengalbug]

AI- prompt “how does paycor rank to other non domed NFL stadiums”

✅ Fan Experience & Ratings

A survey of U.S. stadiums across sports showed Paycor scored 3.97/5, similar to many solid venues—just below elite open-air stadiums like AT&T or Lumen stadium.
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Another fan‑experience ranking placed it squarely in the middle of the pack for game-day experiences
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?️ Open-Air Context

Some top-tier open-air NFL stadiums include:

Lambeau Field (Green Bay) – iconic historic venue
Lumen Field (Seattle) – massive crowd noise, close to downtown
AT&T Stadium (Dallas) – though retractable-roof, often open
These renowned stadiums often rank top 3 in fan satisfaction

Paycor doesn't quite match their legendary atmosphere or architectural wow-factor, but it offers dependable sightlines, solid concessions, and enthusiastic Bengals fans—especially during Joe Burrow’s era.

?️ Renovation & Future

Recently, a $470M renovation package was approved to enhance lounges, video/audio systems, suites, and concessions
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These upgrades aim to close the gap with newer stadiums and improve the overall game-day experience.

? Final Take:
Comfort & Atmosphere: Strong and reliable, especially with the Jungle energy.
Fan Ratings: Middle-to-upper among open-air NFL stadiums.
Upgrades: Renovation plans keep it competitive with newer stadiums.
If you're looking for where Paycor lands today: it's a solid, mid-tier to upper-mid-tier open-air NFL stadium, and it's trending upward thanks to ongoing investment.

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 10:08 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Great seats...great sound system..upgraded Wi fi..great views..what is outdated..only thing I want to see is a larger north end scoreboard

I agree, it’s come a long way the last 10 years.

[sandwedge]

(Yesterday, 10:58 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: AI- prompt “how does paycor rank to other non domed NFL stadiums”

✅ Fan Experience & Ratings

A survey of U.S. stadiums across sports showed Paycor scored 3.97/5, similar to many solid venues—just below elite open-air stadiums like AT&T or Lumen stadium.
.
Another fan‑experience ranking placed it squarely in the middle of the pack for game-day experiences
.
?️ Open-Air Context

Some top-tier open-air NFL stadiums include:

Lambeau Field (Green Bay) – iconic historic venue
Lumen Field (Seattle) – massive crowd noise, close to downtown
AT&T Stadium (Dallas) – though retractable-roof, often open
These renowned stadiums often rank top 3 in fan satisfaction

Paycor doesn't quite match their legendary atmosphere or architectural wow-factor, but it offers dependable sightlines, solid concessions, and enthusiastic Bengals fans—especially during Joe Burrow’s era.

?️ Renovation & Future

Recently, a $470M renovation package was approved to enhance lounges, video/audio systems, suites, and concessions
.
These upgrades aim to close the gap with newer stadiums and improve the overall game-day experience.

? Final Take:
Comfort & Atmosphere: Strong and reliable, especially with the Jungle energy.
Fan Ratings: Middle-to-upper among open-air NFL stadiums.
Upgrades: Renovation plans keep it competitive with newer stadiums.
If you're looking for where Paycor lands today: it's a solid, mid-tier to upper-mid-tier open-air NFL stadium, and it's trending upward thanks to ongoing investment.

Lumen Stadium is a joke, really? There is nothing spectacular about it. Infrastructure around the stadium is horrible. Parking is minimal, mostly street parking and have fun walking past the unhinged homeless camps. 

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 11:52 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Lumen Stadium is a joke, really? There is nothing spectacular about it. Infrastructure around the stadium is horrible. Parking is minimal, mostly street parking and have fun walking past the unhinged homeless camps. 

It was the loudest stadium until 2014, and second since then. The parking/infrastructure around has little to do with the viability of the stadium.

Long story short, paycor is a good stadium, like lumen.

[wanga]

(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)puddycat Wrote: Glad the deal seems to have got done.  Paycor is a great location that allows city dweller to tailgate.. no driving out to a stadium that has no alternatives to stadium parking and stadium food.  IMO money spent on a better fan experience (concessions, audio, video, concourse flow) and improving the practice facilities (including covered practice field) is money well spent. And it keeps the Bengals in Cincinnati for at least 11 more years.  Nothing but love.

Envy this. Also people that enjoy the privilege of being able to attend and watch Bengals home games like this. Kudos. 

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 05:14 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: The new Titans stadium will look much different from the current one from pictures I've seen and it is going to be fully enclosed with a translucent roof.  The later alone makes it significantly different than the current one in my opinion. 

I've never seen a rendering of it, just the structure they are building when I drive past it. 

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)puddycat Wrote: Glad the deal seems to have got done.  Paycor is a great location that allows city dweller to tailgate.. no driving out to a stadium that has no alternatives to stadium parking and stadium food.  IMO money spent on a better fan experience (concessions, audio, video, concourse flow) and improving the practice facilities (including covered practice field) is money well spent. And it keeps the Bengals in Cincinnati for at least 11 more years.  Nothing but love.

I do agree it in a great location. I am not against the changes and was a long term season ticket holder. I left years ago,but the biggest issue was Wi-Fi after they upgraded it in my opinion. I had club seats which were great, that section had better food and cleaner/nicer restrooms. It also had tables inside you could sit before/after the game and also the ability to go inside away from horrible weather.

I had lower level seats first and moved because yes closer to the field, but horible during bad weather.

I hope they spend the money wisely, I just wish they would have down some type of dome or retractable roof. As for other stadiums and rankigs, I have been to quite a few incuding Las Vegas and Anaheim, both were awesome, but Las Vegas was the better in my opinion. I have also toured and watched games at Dalla AT&T, it is an old outdated piece of crap in my opinion, it was obviously state of the art when built, but now is run down and disappointing. In contrast yes new, but the Raiders entire stadium was stunning from Elvis artwork to the locker rooms. The private seating areas were awesome with using the black, silver and white leather furniture and color scheme.

Paycor furniture is cheap compared to Las Vegas, maybe they will upgrade it using an orange, white and black theme, they need to do something to bring it up to date.

[BoomerFan]

(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)puddycat Wrote: Glad the deal seems to have got done.  Paycor is a great location that allows city dweller to tailgate.. no driving out to a stadium that has no alternatives to stadium parking and stadium food.  IMO money spent on a better fan experience (concessions, audio, video, concourse flow) and improving the practice facilities (including covered practice field) is money well spent. And it keeps the Bengals in Cincinnati for at least 11 more years.  Nothing but love.

Yeah this is where I'm at as well. Last I heard the two sides were 5 years and 15 years so 11 years sounds like a reasonable place to land.

Having an NFL team can be a burden some of the time, but it is also part of downtown Cincinnati identity at this point. I couldn't imagine downtown without them. 

[Goalpost]

Elevators and escalators could see a facelift.  There is mention to improve traffic flow better once inside.

[ERIC1]

(7 hours ago)Goalpost Wrote: Elevators and escalators could see a facelift.  There is mention to improve traffic flow better once inside.

I think the elevators and escalators are part of the package

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(9 hours ago)BoomerFan Wrote: Yeah this is where I'm at as well. Last I heard the two sides were 5 years and 15 years so 11 years sounds like a reasonable place to land.

Having an NFL team can be a burden some of the time, but it is also part of downtown Cincinnati identity at this point. I couldn't imagine downtown without them. 

James Rapien mentioned that there are also 10, 2 year options that could be used (I think?), which means potentially the deal could be in place for 31 years?

If I heard him correctly, that's what he said lol.

[*rfaulk34*]

(9 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I do agree it in a great location. I am not against the changes and was a long term season ticket holder. I left years ago,but the biggest issue was Wi-Fi after they upgraded it in my opinion. I had club seats which were great, that section had better food and cleaner/nicer restrooms. It also had tables inside you could sit before/after the game and also the ability to go inside away from horrible weather.

I had lower level seats first and moved because yes closer to the field, but horible during bad weather.

I hope they spend the money wisely, I just wish they would have down some type of dome or retractable roof. As for other stadiums and rankigs, I have been to quite a few incuding Las Vegas and Anaheim, both were awesome, but Las Vegas was the better in my opinion. I have also toured and watched games at Dalla AT&T, it is an old outdated piece of crap in my opinion, it was obviously state of the art when built, but now is run down and disappointing. In contrast yes new, but the Raiders entire stadium was stunning from Elvis artwork to the locker rooms. The private seating areas were awesome with using the black, silver and white leather furniture and color scheme.

Paycor furniture is cheap compared to Las Vegas, maybe they will upgrade it using an orange, white and black theme, they need to do something to bring it up to date.

The renderings they originally showed, with the large video boards outside, the redone north endzone seats and the new practice facility and re-mapped roads would have made it one of the nicest stadiums in the NFL. Don't know how much if any of that is still planned but man that was nice. 

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 11:52 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Lumen Stadium is a joke, really? There is nothing spectacular about it. Infrastructure around the stadium is horrible. Parking is minimal, mostly street parking and have fun walking past the unhinged homeless camps. 

I've also been to Lambeau, and did not see anything special about it other than history. 

[Sled21]

(6 hours ago)ERIC1 Wrote: I think the elevators and escalators are part of the package

Brad might be better able to speak to this, but I attended one game at PBS in a wheelchair (just 2 weeks out from open heart surgery) for a Sunday night Steelers game. Trying to get on an elevator in a wheelchair was almost impossible. Nothing wrong with the elevator, but the fans had zero respect for letting someone in a wheelchair get on the elevator. They might ought to mark some of them for handicapped use only.