Over/Under Bengals 2025 Season Edition

[*psychdoctor*]

(Yesterday, 04:13 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Chase Brown over 1500?

Yards from scrimmage, it is possible but would be tough.  

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 07:30 PM)jj22 Wrote: You don't think Tee can get 5 more TD's if he plays a full 17 games?

Chase a mere 50 more yards?

Ossai closed the season with a 6 game sack streak. Or at least there was a stretch where he got a sack per game for 5-6 games.... If he starts the season healthy you don't think he can get 2 more? Hell you banked on Murphy getting more than 4...

If Qb's were getting 5k seasons out of 16 games..... And we have a generational talent at QB should we expect him to reach heights only few have reached?  

Wilson from all reports is primed for a big year. Don't bet against him having a career year.

Tee needs 6 more TDs to hit the over 15. There have only been 3 instances of >15 receiving TDs in the last DECADE combined. Chase repeating it is not great odds, Tee doing it as a WR2 is almost certainly not going to happen.

The last 55 years (NFL Merger), there have only been 4 other receiving Triple Crowns: Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharpe, Steve Smith Sr, and Cooper Kupp. None of them have produced even more yards the next year.

Ossai had 0.0 sacks against Tennessee, so no he didn't. He still had a very strong end to the season, but he did that while he had Trey Hendrickson taking all of that attention away from him. Murphy I just went ahead and said yes on because I think if he gets a starting workload (as it's looking like he will) that 4.5 sacks isn't impossible (or particularly impressive, 107 guys did that last year) while a >8.0 sack season is a pretty impressive season (only 26 guys did that last year).

QBs throwing for 5k yards generally isn't a good thing. It normally means something is wrong. Over the previous decade, there were 7 5k seasons and 4 of them missed the playoffs.

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 04:13 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Chase Brown over 1500?

Yeah. I can see him hitting 1100 yds rushing and 400 receiving. That's honestly the minimum i would expect from him for a full, healthy season.

[*jason*]

(Yesterday, 06:38 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not setting career bests a year after setting career bests is not a "down year".

There has only been 1 5k passing season in the last 3 years and Burrow didn't reach it despite leading the league in pass attempts.
You have to go back 5 years to find someone who threw more than 45 TDs.
Ossai has 9.5 combined sacks in 4 years.
Chase won the triple-crown with a QB that lead the league in pass attempts and didn't reach 1750 yards. Only reached 3 times in the last 5 years.
Over 15 TDs for Tee would be a 60% increase on his career high last year. His second highest total was 7.
Over 5 INT for Wilson would be 50% better than his career high. A non-DB hasn't had 5 INT since 2019. A non-DB hasn't had over 5 INT since 2013.


It's not a matter of a down year, it's a matter of a ton of guys could have amazing years and they still wouldn't reach the numbers you set because they're so high.

A better record doesn't automatically mean better stats. If your defense is a top-15 scoring defense for instance, you don't NEED to lead the league in pass attempts which means you don't reach 5k, 45 TD, or 1750 yards, or either of the 15 TDs because that's all passing stats while you'd be running the ball late with a lead rather than passing to catch up. There's a reason why Stafford and Calvin Johnson put up huge numbers while not winning on the Lions.

Was the non DB with over 5 INTS in 2013 Vontaze Burfict?

[HarleyDog]

(Today, 12:17 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yeah. I can see him hitting 1100 yds rushing and 400 receiving. That's honestly the minimum i would expect from him for a full, healthy season.

Gotcha. I was thinking rushing yards only, not total. I'm with ya now.

[XenoMorph]

The Under

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Today, 01:06 AM)jason Wrote: Was the non DB with over 5 INTS in 2013 Vontaze Burfict?

DeAndre Levy for the Lions

Interestingly, he only had more than 1 INT in a season only one other time in his career (2 in 2010).