Stewart is signed!

[*ochocincos*]

(07-29-2025, 01:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I think Shemar might surprise you and a lot of people on here. He was the main DL that Offenses tried to take away on that A&M Defense.

As others have pointed out that watched a lot of Stewart's film, he was asked to attack the B-gap a ton and wasn't really let loose to attack 
Tackles on the edge. He will not be the End Offenses will try to take away here, that will be Trey and even Ossai and maybe Murphy if he 
comes around now that he is in better shape. Stewart will be let loose here and if you cannot see a dude with big time size, speed and 
strength going at Mims in these camp vids I don't know what to tell you.

The dude could be a wrecking ball right off the bat for this Defense, especially in sealing the edge in the run game. Who knows if he learns
to finish or not. That is really my question with Shemar Stewart...

I hope I'm wrong.
I was wrong about Josh Allen, as he ended up a pretty damn QB.
It did take him until Year 3 though, but he got there.
Hopefully Stewart not only comes into his own, but hopefully it doesn't take him multiple years to get there.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 12:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I hope I'm wrong.
I was wrong about Josh Allen, as he ended up a pretty damn QB.
It did take him until Year 3 though, but he got there.
Hopefully Stewart not only comes into his own, but hopefully it doesn't take him multiple years to get there.

I understand Stewart is a mid first round pick and many fans think that means he has to be great in year one (not you), but it is more common than not it takes rookies 2 to 3 years to peak minimum. The question we don't know yet is what will Stewart's peak be? Knight? Fairchild? Rivers? Brooks? Carter?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 12:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I hope I'm wrong.
I was wrong about Josh Allen, as he ended up a pretty damn QB.
It did take him until Year 3 though, but he got there.
Hopefully Stewart not only comes into his own, but hopefully it doesn't take him multiple years to get there.

I was wrong about Josh Allen myself and I am a Wyominite.

With Shemar, he only needs to be better than Sam this year, not a high bar. I think he will be much better and will surprise a lot 
that hated the pick. Might not get the sacks, because he has problems tackling the QB once he gets there, but he will get TFL's,
pass deflections, hits, pressures etc.

(Yesterday, 12:33 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I understand Stewart is a mid first round pick and many fans think that means he has to be great in year one (not you), but it is more common than not it takes rookies 2 to 3 years to peak minimum. The question we don't know yet is what will Stewart's peak be? Knight? Fairchild? Rivers? Brooks? Carter?

His upside is insane. That is why I liked the pick. If Montgomery can teach him to pace himself and try and be fundamental and
tackle once he gets to the QB or RB look out.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 12:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: With Shemar, he only needs to be better than Sam this year, not a high bar. I think he will be much better and will surprise a lot 
that hated the pick. Might not get the sacks, because he has problems tackling the QB once he gets there, but he will get TFL's,
pass deflections, hits, pressures etc.


His upside is insane. That is why I liked the pick. If Montgomery can teach him to pace himself and try and be fundamental and
tackle once he gets to the QB or RB look out.

I love players who can disrupt. If he can disrupt by forcing blockers to not be able to engage, he will make big plays. As I watched him, I think at a minimum he is going to make OL uncomfortable trying to block him. 

I also think he may surprise a lot of fans who hated the pick.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 01:02 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I love players who can disrupt. If he can disrupt by forcing blockers to not be able to engage, he will make big plays. As I watched him, I think at a minimum he is going to make OL uncomfortable trying to block him. 

I also think he may surprise a lot of fans who hated the pick.

That is what I see at the very least as a rookie, a disruptive force on the other side of Trey, he will struggle, probably by over pursuing and 
missing tackles here and there. We should expect this just to harness our expectations, but he will be disruptive and not easy to handle like
Sam was last year for the most part.

[*ochocincos*]

(Yesterday, 12:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I was wrong about Josh Allen myself and I am a Wyominite.

With Shemar, he only needs to be better than Sam this year, not a high bar. I think he will be much better and will surprise a lot 
that hated the pick. Might not get the sacks, because he has problems tackling the QB once he gets there, but he will get TFL's,
pass deflections, hits, pressures etc.


His upside is insane. That is why I liked the pick. If Montgomery can teach him to pace himself and try and be fundamental and
tackle once he gets to the QB or RB look out.

I disagree, kind of.
Sure, that's a bar, but my main concern is pass rush apart from Hendrickson in general.

If Ossai can cover that and get 7+ sacks himself (more what Hubbard usually got around during his better years), then Stewart can take more time and that's fine.
If Ossai flounders or gets hurt, the Bengals will need someone to carry that load.
Bengals might need both Ossai and either Murphy or Stewart if Hendrickson doesn't play some games.
I'm very nervous about Stewart's readiness to contribute in the passing game, and same with Murphy.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 02:06 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I disagree, kind of.
Sure, that's a bar, but my main concern is pass rush apart from Hendrickson in general.

If Ossai can cover that and get 7+ sacks himself (more what Hubbard usually got around during his better years), then Stewart can take more time and that's fine.
If Ossai flounders or gets hurt, the Bengals will need someone to carry that load.
Bengals might need both Ossai and either Murphy or Stewart if Hendrickson doesn't play some games.
I'm very nervous about Stewart's readiness to contribute in the passing game, and same with Murphy.

Expecting a big year from Ossai especially on 3rd downs rushing from the inside. One of my bold predictions is Ossai has more sacks 
than Trey this year. Also think Murphy will show some of why he was a 1st round pick this year, have heard some good things about 
Murphy which is nice to hear after his terrible sophomore showing.

Stewart will be a better pass rusher than Sam, it is just the finishing part that is the big concern, but if others get the sack it's all good IMO.

[*ochocincos*]

(Yesterday, 03:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Expecting a big year from Ossai especially on 3rd downs rushing from the inside. One of my bold predictions is Ossai has more sacks 
than Trey this year. Also think Murphy will show some of why he was a 1st round pick this year, have heard some good things about 
Murphy which is nice to hear after his terrible sophomore showing.

Stewart will be a better pass rusher than Sam, it is just the finishing part that is the big concern, but if others get the sack it's all good IMO.

Oh, is it expected Ossai is going to used a good amount inside?
I figured with Ossai being a former LB and smaller than Murphy and Stewart, Ossai would remain outside opposite Hendrickson with one of the bigger DEs (Murphy, Stewart, or Sample) swinging inside.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 03:26 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Oh, is it expected Ossai is going to used a good amount inside?
I figured with Ossai being a former LB and smaller than Murphy and Stewart, Ossai would remain outside opposite Hendrickson with one of the bigger DEs (Murphy, Stewart, or Sample) swinging inside.

Been seeing Ossai rushing on the inside already, beat Fairchild pretty good. That is what is nice about both Stewart and Ossai, they can alternate
and be used in different ways. Ossai is smaller, but damn he is so quick he makes Guards look bad. Stewart is more of the power that can move 
inside if needed. Really liking what Montgomery is doing, Zac has said so himself that he has loved what he has seen from Montgomery.

I was never impressed with Hobby and how he taught the DL here.