Reds August 2025 Thread

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

2.5 hour delay, refusing to postpone, just to then not even a single full inning before another delay?

What asshole made that pointless call?

[jmccracky]

(08-02-2025, 11:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 2.5 hour delay, refusing to postpone, just to then not even a single full inning before another delay?

What asshole made that pointless call?

This is so frustrating.

[Timanky12]

(08-02-2025, 11:18 PM)jmccracky Wrote: This is so frustrating.

If this game was played any where else, it would have been cancelled by now.

This is what you get when you plan a big game with no backup plan.

[Goalpost]

They could play it Sunday, but, do they play it in Bristol or back in Cincinnati...The forecast for Cincinnati is 83 and sunny.

[cinci4life]

(08-02-2025, 11:24 PM)Goalpost Wrote: They could play it Sunday, but, do they play it in Bristol or back in Cincinnati...The forecast for Cincinnati is 83 and sunny.

Game suspended until 1pm tomorrow still at Bristol. Big question is will Burns still pitch? If not this is why Martinez being in the pen comes in handy. 

[kevin]

(08-02-2025, 11:51 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Game suspended until 1pm tomorrow still at Bristol. Big question is will Burns still pitch? If not this is why Martinez being in the pen comes in handy. 

No, Burns can't pitch.  He pitched tonight.  Burns can't pitch until Thursday or Friday now.  This is why Francona was pretty upset with the umpires.  There was no reason to start this game when it was still pouring down rain, and not even finish the 1st inning.  The weather radar showed it was a rain out.  The announcers said this doesn't hurt The Braves because they are not in a play-off race, but it hurts The Reds who are.  Somebody needs called on the carpet for starting that game in pouring rain and such awful conditions.  

So NO, Burns can't pitch until almost next weekend.  You don't ruin a good starter by starting him 2 days in a row.  

I know it was on National TV and all set up for Tennessee and a special event.  However it was pouring rain non stop, the radar showed no chance to play game.  Whoever decided to start the game around 9 after a 2 hour rain delay needs fired.  It was pouring rain, awful conditions, the infield they made at the car racetrack turned into a lake.  Players couldn't field or play in that.  They are lucky players didn't get injured.  Starting that game in pouring rain and not even getting an inning in, was just stupid.  And it takes a start away from Burns, who can't pitch again until late in week. 

So Francona has to come up with a starting pitcher on what was suppose to be an off day.  Somebody that hasn't started since Monday or Tuesday.  The people that decided to start this game didn't hurt The Braves not in play-off hunt, but they hurt The Reds.  Francona was letting the umpires have it when the game was stopped in the 1st inning. The game should have never started.  A thrown together field in the pouring rain, with radar showing the game could not be played.  Whoever said to start it, needs fired.  

Hopefully better weather Sunday and Tennessee gets this game and concert afterwards. Hopefully FOX can move things to still show it National TV.  Hopefully Reds win.  However Burns can't start again until Thursday or Friday.  You don't ruin him by starting him 2 days in a row, he is done and back in 5 man rotation. 

If it hadn't been this Tennessee thing, the game never starts in pouring rain, and even this shouldn't have started in rain so bad they couldn't finish one inning. 

I would think Lodolo who last pitched Tuesday.  Come Monday it could be Littell who last pitched for Rays on Wednesday.  Abbott Tuesday who last pitched Thursday. Then Singer and then Burns.   So Lodolo pitching would be right in his every 5th day spot anyway.  So would Littell, Abbott, Singer and back to Burns again.  Reds are going to need Martinez in the bullpen if they want to make a play-off run, he bulks up the bullpen. 

[cinci4life]

(08-03-2025, 03:03 AM)kevin Wrote: No, Burns can't pitch.  He pitched tonight.  Burns can't pitch until Thursday or Friday now.  This is why Francona was pretty upset with the umpires.  There was no reason to start this game when it was still pouring down rain, and not even finish the 1st inning.  The weather radar showed it was a rain out.  The announcers said this doesn't hurt The Braves because they are not in a play-off race, but it hurts The Reds who are.  Somebody needs called on the carpet for starting that game in pouring rain and such awful conditions.  

So NO, Burns can't pitch until almost next weekend.  You don't ruin a good starter by starting him 2 days in a row.  

I know it was on National TV and all set up for Tennessee and a special event.  However it was pouring rain non stop, the radar showed no chance to play game.  Whoever decided to start the game around 9 after a 2 hour rain delay needs fired.  It was pouring rain, awful conditions, the infield they made at the car racetrack turned into a lake.  Players couldn't field or play in that.  They are lucky players didn't get injured.  Starting that game in pouring rain and not even getting an inning in, was just stupid.  And it takes a start away from Burns, who can't pitch again until late in week. 

So Francona has to come up with a starting pitcher on what was suppose to be an off day.  Somebody that hasn't started since Monday or Tuesday.  The people that decided to start this game didn't hurt The Braves not in play-off hunt, but they hurt The Reds.  Francona was letting the umpires have it when the game was stopped in the 1st inning. The game should have never started.  A thrown together field in the pouring rain, with radar showing the game could not be played.  Whoever said to start it, needs fired.  

Hopefully better weather Sunday and Tennessee gets this game and concert afterwards. Hopefully FOX can move things to still show it National TV.  Hopefully Reds win.  However Burns can't start again until Thursday or Friday.  You don't ruin him by starting him 2 days in a row, he is done and back in 5 man rotation. 

If it hadn't been this Tennessee thing, the game never starts in pouring rain, and even this shouldn't have started in rain so bad they couldn't finish one inning. 

It wasn't raining though when the game started at 9:40. It really started and picked up after the top of 1. They must have thought that batch of rain would stay north of them but it didn't. Reds were originally off today (Sunday) and Burns isn't scheduled to pitch again until Saturday. With Burns only throwing 15 pitches the possibility might be there for him to continue. Reds have Undecided, Lodolo and Littell against the Cubs Mon-Wed and Abbott, Singer, Burns and Lodolo against the Pirates Thurs-Sun.

[kevin]

(08-03-2025, 03:23 AM)cinci4life Wrote: It wasn't raining though when the game started at 9:40. It really started and picked up after the top of 1. They must have thought that batch of rain would stay north of them but it didn't. Reds were originally off today (Sunday) and Burns isn't scheduled to pitch again until Saturday. With Burns only throwing 15 pitches the possibility might be there for him to continue. Reds have Undecided, Lodolo and Littell against the Cubs Mon-Wed and Abbott, Singer, Burns and Lodolo against the Pirates Thurs-Sun.

I was watching on TV.  It was pouring rain with Burns on the mound to start the game.  Radar showed playing the game was not possible.  The game should have never started, and the hell with Tennessee and National TV, it should have never started.  

Also you can't say Burns only made 15 pitches, so use him next day also. It doesn't work like that.  He is done for 5 days. 

Throw out what Reds had planned with a Sunday off.  They can go Lodolo, Littell, Abbott, Singer, Burns and they all will have 5 days rest just the same.  As for Martinez, they need him in the bullpen if they are going to have a bullpen to make a play-off run. 

The game was started in the pouring rain with Burns on the mound, and they knew the weather radar showed endless rain coming in.  Game should not have been started. This game should have been called a rain out around 7 PM.   Now you just can't warm up Burns and start him again and take a chance of injury that way.  The only smart thing is warm up Lodolo and move the others up a day, and they all still are on 5 man rotation rest due to how they pitched last week.  

Francona is not stupid enough to try to start Burns 2 days in a row.  Reds have had stupid managers, but Francona is pretty smart. Simply go Lodolo, Littell, Abbott, Singer and then Burns later in the week, and they are all still on the right amount of rest. 

You also forget Burns warmed up to start this game twice, you can't warm him up to start again the next day.  I saw Reds pitch Soto and Harang in back to back games, and they came up career injured. Is that what you want with Burns, career injured ? 

[Timanky12]

(08-03-2025, 04:02 AM)kevin Wrote: I was watching on TV.  It was pouring rain with Burns on the mound to start the game.  Radar showed playing the game was not possible.  The game should have never started, and the hell with Tennessee and National TV, it should have never started.  

Also you can't say Burns only made 15 pitches, so use him next day also. It doesn't work like that.  He is done for 5 days. 

Throw out what Reds had planned with a Sunday off.  They can go Lodolo, Littell, Abbott, Singer, Burns and they all will have 5 days rest just the same.  As for Martinez, they need him in the bullpen if they are going to have a bullpen to make a play-off run. 

The game was started in the pouring rain with Burns on the mound, and they knew the weather radar showed endless rain coming in.  Game should not have been started. This game should have been called a rain out around 7 PM.   Now you just can't warm up Burns and start him again and take a chance of injury that way.  The only smart thing is warm up Lodolo and move the others up a day, and they all still are on 5 man rotation rest due to how they pitched last week.  

Francona is not stupid enough to try to start Burns 2 days in a row.  Reds have had stupid managers, but Francona is pretty smart. Simply go Lodolo, Littell, Abbott, Singer and then Burns later in the week, and they are all still on the right amount of rest. 

You also forget Burns warmed up to start this game twice, you can't warm him up to start again the next day.  I saw Reds pitch Soto and Harang in back to back games, and they came up career injured. Is that what you want with Burns, career injured ? 

[Timanky12]

Relievers pitch in back to bad games. Not sure why they can’t start him and get a couple innings out of him. He has a 6+ era and will probably be sent down when and if Greene returns. Then fill in with long relief pitching. Or maybe MLB will allow both teams to call up a starter because of the circumstances.

[Timanky12]

(08-03-2025, 11:47 AM)Timanky12 Wrote: Relievers pitch in back to bad games. Not sure why they can’t start him and get a couple innings out of him. He has a 6+ era and will probably be sent down when and if Greene returns. Then fill in with long relief pitching. Or maybe MLB will allow both teams to call up a starter because of the circumstances.

Question answered Benson sent down starter called up, not sure who, yet.

[cinci4life]

(08-03-2025, 12:23 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Question answered Benson sent down starter called up, not sure who, yet.

Not a starter, it's Lyon Richardson. Suter is taking over today's game.

https://www.mlb.com/news/reds-make-roster-moves-prior-to-resumption-of-speedway-classic

[kevin]

(08-03-2025, 12:38 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Not a starter, it's Lyon Richardson. Suter is taking over today's game.

https://www.mlb.com/news/reds-make-roster-moves-prior-to-resumption-of-speedway-classic

Right, it is Suter today.  Francona says it will be a Bullpen Game, which he says hurts Reds bullpen going into Chicago.  So Reds quickly moved down Benson and brought up this pitcher Richardson to add to the bullpen for now.  

They never considered pitching Burns 2 days in a row, and Francona wasn't going to do that.  So the Bullpen will have to go the game on this one.  Hopefully a Win.  Then off to play The Cubs with Lodolo still set to start that series.  Next time we see Burns will be against Pirates after Cubs series.  

There is no crying in baseball, so as messed up as last night was for Reds, win with the bullpen today, and go to play Cubs and win that series.  GO REDS. 

[cinci4life]

(08-03-2025, 04:02 AM)kevin Wrote: I was watching on TV.  It was pouring rain with Burns on the mound to start the game.  Radar showed playing the game was not possible.  The game should have never started, and the hell with Tennessee and National TV, it should have never started.  

Also you can't say Burns only made 15 pitches, so use him next day also. It doesn't work like that.  He is done for 5 days. 

Throw out what Reds had planned with a Sunday off.  They can go Lodolo, Littell, Abbott, Singer, Burns and they all will have 5 days rest just the same.  As for Martinez, they need him in the bullpen if they are going to have a bullpen to make a play-off run. 

The game was started in the pouring rain with Burns on the mound, and they knew the weather radar showed endless rain coming in.  Game should not have been started. This game should have been called a rain out around 7 PM.   Now you just can't warm up Burns and start him again and take a chance of injury that way.  The only smart thing is warm up Lodolo and move the others up a day, and they all still are on 5 man rotation rest due to how they pitched last week.  

Francona is not stupid enough to try to start Burns 2 days in a row.  Reds have had stupid managers, but Francona is pretty smart. Simply go Lodolo, Littell, Abbott, Singer and then Burns later in the week, and they are all still on the right amount of rest. 

You also forget Burns warmed up to start this game twice, you can't warm him up to start again the next day.  I saw Reds pitch Soto and Harang in back to back games, and they came up career injured. Is that what you want with Burns, career injured ? 

I was watching too and it absolutely was not pouring rain at 9:40 when the game started. Light rain at worst but nothing they couldn't play in. You could see the rain had really picked up when they came back from commercial for the bottom of the first which is when you could see the standing water on the infield dirt. Looking at the radar at the time it looked like that area of rain would stay north of Bristol but it expanded south just enough. Weather doesn't play by any rules.

[Timanky12]

(08-03-2025, 01:06 PM)kevin Wrote: Right, it is Suter today.  Francona says it will be a Bullpen Game, which he says hurts Reds bullpen going into Chicago.  So Reds quickly moved down Benson and brought up this pitcher Richardson to add to the bullpen for now.  

They never considered pitching Burns 2 days in a row, and Francona wasn't going to do that.  So the Bullpen will have to go the game on this one.  Hopefully a Win.  Then off to play The Cubs with Lodolo still set to start that series.  Next time we see Burns will be against Pirates after Cubs series.  

There is no crying in baseball, so as messed up as last night was for Reds, win with the bullpen today, and go to play Cubs and win that series.  GO REDS. 

MLB wasted 2 starting pitchers, because that game should have never started. The least MLB could do was to let both teams call up a pitcher like it was a double header.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(08-03-2025, 01:37 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: MLB wasted 2 starting pitchers, because that game should have never started. The least MLB could do was to let both teams call up a pitcher like it was a double header.

Did it waste 2 starting pitchers? The Braves put a reliever into the game after the delay instead of their scheduled starter. Not sure if Strider is wasted for the Braves.

Francona just handled it really poorly. They knew there was going to be rain, then it rained for over 2 hours. True that the game should have never started but he knew it was going to get shut back down quickly by just looking at any radar, and he still chose to put his starting pitcher in to burn him.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

Well, Suter fumbled that quickly.

[Goalpost]

Mistake pitch

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

That was a shit initial intro by Andujar. The pitcher wanted him to hit the ball to the left by pitching him inside and he did exactly that. Let's see if he can redeem himself.

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(08-03-2025, 11:47 AM)Timanky12 Wrote: Relievers pitch in back to bad games. Not sure why they can’t start him and get a couple innings out of him. He has a 6+ era and will probably be sent down when and if Greene returns. Then fill in with long relief pitching. Or maybe MLB will allow both teams to call up a starter because of the circumstances.

You don't just warm up and get loose. Most starting pitchers throw almost two full innings worth of throws in the bullpen before the game to get the shoulder loose and fluid. This is to prevent injury.

The human arm is not designed to throw overhand. That's why some softball pitchers can pitch a doubleheader and still pitch the next day. Every time you throw overhanded, you have small, microscopic tears in your muscles and tendons. The reason that they call it "rest" is because almost all color announcers are ex-players that haven't been to school in over a decade and it's easier for them to say a one syllable word like rest than it is to say recuperation or recovery. That's also why they throw in the bullpen two days before their next start. The recovery process, if monitored and handled correctly, will help you build up strength and endurance.

So instead of viewing it as only one inning, he probably threw around 50 to 60 pitches yesterday with the first inning warmup usually around 8-10 pitches.